Tremors are the Way Forward – Berceli was Right

I can’t remember the exact timeline, but around nine years ago I had begun to experience involuntary tremors while meditating. Someone then sent me a link to a video of David Berceli’s “Trauma Releasing Exercises” (TREs). These exercises intentionally trigger body tremors by fatiguing the psoas muscle. Here is Berceli’s official teaser video:

I practised these exercises for a few weeks. At some point however I realized I could induce tremors just by thinking about them (more on this later). So then I did a few months inducing tremors that way.

I’m not exactly sure why I stopped, but it must have involved the sense that this was not really getting me to where I wanted to be. It may have been the case however that I had performed 1,500,000 tremors out of a required 2,000,000 and had stopped short. Those numbers are pulled out of thin air, but do reflect the correct order of magnitude of the problem, in my opinion. The point is, there’s a whole lifetime’s work to be “undone” here, and you must see it through to the end!

I have gone back to practising tremors every day over the last two weeks and have made massive progress. I will write another post at some point laying down why TRE works and how it fits together with meditation and my other research done since first learning about it. In short, TRE works because the roots of the vagus nerves plunge right into the core of the psoas muscles!

This article is an excellent summary:

Some of the nerves in our gut brain belong to the vagus nerve, a bundle of nerves that run through our upper body and neck into our brain. The vagus nerve in our lower body is embedded in a big muscle called the psoas muscle. The psoas connects our upper thighbones with the lower part of our spine.

When the psoas muscle contracts fully, it pulls us into a foetal position in the attempt to protect our internal organs from anticipated harm. From within the psoas, the vagus nerve measures the degree of tension and sends this feedback to the amygdala. As long as the vagus nerve detects a significant degree of tension in the psoas, it signals to the amygdala that the threat has not yet passed.

One of the consequences of unresolved trauma is the tension held in our body, particularly the gut brain and the psoas muscle. If this tension is not released, our gut keeps signalling the brain that we are not yet safe.

My Method

If you want to skip my input and go straight to the source materials, Berceli’s website is here. What follows now is entirely my own take on it all.

The first step is to actually practise the Trauma Release Exercises featured in the video at the top of this post, or via Berceli’s full instruction videos if you have them. Induce the tremors following Berceli’s instructions. Get to know the process well. You could, if you wanted, stay entirely within his instruction.

My second step is designed to save time. This involves reaching a point where you can induce the tremors without the physical exercises. The benefit here is that tremors can be induced immediately upon waking (my preferred time to do this) and all the session time can be invested in the tremors themselves rather than spent in the exercise phase. Another benefit is that you learn to activate the vagus nerves using just a thought, which is an important skill to have as it allows you to enter the healing and relaxation modality at will, and it also deepens meditation.

My preferred way of inducing tremors using thoughts is as follows:

  1. Lie on your side in bed, with your head on just one pillow. (I have abandoned the “no pillow” rule, but I do use a single thin pillow, and a firm mattress.)
  2. Draw knees up slightly into a semi-fetal position.
  3. Clasp hands together lightly, placing one fist loosely in the other open hand, and put them front of your face.
  4. Eyes are closed at first but one or both may want to open later, which should be allowed.
  5. In your mind, ask yourself the question, “How am I experiencing this moment of being alive?” (This is the primary practice of Actual Freedom Method.) This question opens the mind and invites it to inspect the contents of reality in a nonjudgmental way. The physical response to the question is that both vagus nerves turn on. For me, this causes tremors immediately.
  6. Allow tremors to proceed at their own pace. Do not try to accelerate them or otherwise “push the process along”! (I believe this was a primary reason I failed in my initial run.)
  7. I have also added noting to the practice to good effect. This involves saying a simple word in your mind which matches the thought, emotion or sensation arising at the time. My notes are mainly body-based, e.g. “tension in left side… pain in right leg…” etc. Notes can also be made on emotional state if that presents strongly. Noting allows the tremors to continue at their own pace without the mind interfering with them. Noting also allows any memories arising from the practice to pass through in a nonjudgmental way.
  8. Continue this for the length of the session (I throw as much time as I can at it — e.g. 1-hour minimum sessions immediately upon waking). If tremors stop, retrigger them by asking, “How am I experiencing this moment of being alive?” then continuing to note.
  9. Turn over onto your other side, or some other position if your body “chooses”, or if you fatigue on the current side.
  10. Allow strange “kriyas” such as one eye or both eyes opening, or the mouth forming strange “gurning” shapes and movements. Let these play out if they arise.

Do not try to accelerate the process. Simply let tremors go on as they wish until you run out of time. This is a marathon, not a sprint. We are talking about progress unfolding over weeks or months, here. One benefit of the coronavirus lockdown is that we all have extra time to dedicate to these things.

Other ways to induce tremors are as follows:

  • Put awareness on the breath while letting the body go limp. This induces violent and uncomfortable tremors for me personally and I am happier with the slow and steady method described above.
  • If you have the tremor response memorized from personal experience, you may be able to induce tremors simply by thinking of them.
  • A mantra, e.g. “raaaaahhhhhhhhmmmm”, can also induce tremors.

Combining Tremors with Other Practices

I will write a longer post at some point explaining my model of the myofascial system and how it interacts with the vagus nerves to create “stored trauma”. However, for now, here is a simple analogy. If you have ever tied a shirt at the midriff, you will appreciate that all material in the shirt gets pulled towards the knot:

Now imagine that it is a full body suit, sitting underneath your skin, covering every part of you including the face. The material in this analogy represents your connective tissue, myofascia, which contains muscle fibres and which can “stick” to nerves in tight spiral patterns during stress. Knotting the material at the midriff (actually, deep in the abdomen where the vagus nerves join into the psoas), causes all the connective tissue in your body to be pulled towards that knot. Consequently, we see the head being pulled down, shoulders becoming rounded, pelvis tilting towards the knot, calves and thighs becoming tight, and all the other postural distortions we see in highly-strung or anxious people.

The TRE tremors loosen that knot slowly over time. This allows the material to spread back away from the knot and to relieve pressure on the nerves across the whole body. This model informs me of how to connect other yogic practices into the regime to further capitalize upon improvements caused by tremors. What follows is my own plan, which you are free to try out:

  1. Practise an entire session of tremors, using either Berceli’s TREs or my induction methods described earlier in the post.
  2. Induce yawning for a couple of minutes (use Smile-Yawn tech). Also induce yawning after any sedentary period (e.g. sitting at the computer or on the couch), and before bed in order to improve sleep! Yawning is the body’s natural way of turning on the vagus nerves and noticeably improves mental-emotional state as well as continuing to shed myofascial adhesions from the vagus nerves. Yawning is part of the body’s healing modality.
  3. Perform hatha yoga to redistribute connective tissue freed up by tremors.
  4. Do breath work, e.g. pranayama or Wim Hoff, in order to redistribute connective tissue across the diaphragm and to open up the lungs and abdominal cavity. Pranayama has the added benefit of working directly with the vagus nerves (which are called “nadis” in yoga, although I realize the terms may not correlate exactly).
  5. Practise whatever sitting meditation you currently do. You may find it has noticeably improved as a result of the above steps! Meditation continues the work of shedding myofascial adhesions from the vagus nerves, in a top-down manner (whereas tremors are a bottom-up method).

That’s the order I would do things in. If I’m not mistaken, this order also resembles how yoga was originally performed – except now I know why it was done that way.

And remember, this is a marathon, not a sprint. Since most of us are currently on lockdown due to the coronavirus, this seems like a pretty good time to work out an effective sadhana.

Discussion in the comments section is welcome as always.

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27 Responses

  1. William says:

    Nice! Great timing!

    For the last two weeks this is my tech to deal with mind loops:

    Lay down with a weighted blanket, induce TRE with my eyes (I can do it with thoughts only), soon whole face starts shaking. Focus my mind on the “problem”, but only slightly. Soon thoughts start running around, memories pop up and I get a 3d view of the issue. Since I achieve outside perspective it resolves itself. I haven’t had such consistent relaxed mind state for around a decade, and I am only in my twenties. Dealt with two major sticking points – one last week, and one yesterday. Clarity is jarring, I am not making it up, it is life changing. Although in my case I must say, that I can see how I can fall back into some of the thought patterns, unless my actions in the “real world” change as well. My experience shows that changes inwards have to be reflected outwards or it wont stick.

    So far I can’t induce full on TRE release however, but my mind, my overbearing mind is doing better. 🙂 I am feeling very optimistic about the future, and will try out full on TRE exercises again. Thanks for the post!

  2. Gedanken says:

    I’ve been diving into some of your old posts and comments on posture and the fascia as I have experienced involuntary tremors and shaking whenever I sit or stretch for over a year now.

    A few questions:

    1) How is your posture these days?

    2) Do you still experience tremors and shakes when you meditate? Strong, mild, or weak?

    It’s interesting to see your progress overtime with meditation as from what I’ve seen from high level meditators is that they tend to build up their skill and ability in the jhanas. And then they eventually shift to more (seemingly) Mahayana based practices such as self-inquiry (Who am I? Who is reciting the Buddha’s name?), shikantaza/do nothing, and turning the light (or sound) around to point at the inherent nature within.

    Another similar musing that has arose is the idea of myofascia and its functions with the body. You mentioned the “full body suit” and it brings to mind the Taoist / Nei Gong perspective on the manner, which aligns closely with the one you have seemingly discovered. They also talk about a “wet body suit” of connective tissues under the body that is felt when the body is functioning properly (i.e. without excess tension and knots).

    The fascia stores energy, which can be trauma and/or unresolved emotions, and the idea is to first unlock and release all of that, to then move on to actual sitting practice/meditation and deeper states. The general process is (1) releasing tension in the large muscle groups, (2) removal of tension in ligaments, tendons, and fascia, (3) removal of tension from deeper layers of fascia that sit deep within the body.

    This inherently builds better posture and flexibility as the body aligns itself correctly once the tension is removed.

    If you’re interested to look more into this model/theory, I can recommend Damo Mitchell’s books.

    • Illuminatus says:

      Hi Gedanken,

      > 1) How is your posture these days?

      I started out pretty hunched and with very stiff movements, and very shallow breathing. In relative terms, my posture is now “good”.

      In absolute terms however, there is still a way to go. I was completely unprepared for the depth and complexity of the problem.

      It also seems to me that society’s primary aim is to suppress healing trauma, to avoid having to ever face this stuff — to repress vulnerability, fear and weakness. This repression is present to some degree in all minutiae of modern life, from narcotizing oneself with substances and entertainment, to projecting those fears onto others in the form of politics and belief systems. Hypochondria and OCD are just a couple of the avenues this trauma takes in expressing itself when its main avenue (the healing modality) is denied. Even so-called positive attempts to improve the body, such as running for miles and lifting heavy weights, are a kind of diversion from actually getting into the body in a meaningful way. I am sure that most exercise injuries arise from exerting muscles already compromised by trauma. (Trauma, in its simplest terms, is myofascia tightly wrapped around nerves, “storing” the emotional event the same way a tree’s rings show its history.)

      One of the functions of the coronavirus may well be to lay this stuff bare in a way that cannot be ignored.

      > 2) Do you still experience tremors and shakes when you meditate? Strong, mild, or weak?

      For the first couple of years of my meditation career, body issues were either not noticed or easily dismissed. Later on, some willpower was required to push beyond them and to create the mental states I desired. In recent years however the body issues have intruded ever more forcefully on my meditation, like they are crying out to be resolved. I therefore reached an impasse whereby I HAD to go back to tremors in order to keep moving forward.

      To answer your question, it depends. I found “noticing I am aware” and “focus on silence” meditations to obviate tremors. Shikantaza sometimes has tremors initially followed by “settling in”. These days, strong directive meditation such as breath awareness or anything to do with kriya/kundalini sets off body issues in an unworkable way.

      > You mentioned the “full body suit” and it brings to mind the Taoist / Nei Gong perspective on the manner

      > If you’re interested to look more into this model/theory, I can recommend Damo Mitchell’s books.

      Can you post sources and excerpts, please?

      My main issue with navigating this problem has involved finding BAD sources. For example, my main meditation influence was MCTB. This describes the body problem well, but provides no solution beyond “just meditate through it”. That approach had diminishing returns for me. This is a main reason I am distrustful of “dry insight” practices or those that focus purely on “body scanning”.

      Then I got into Thomas Myers’ “Anatomy Trains” stuff and saw a specialist licensed by him several times. His system is entirely mechanical and he does not address the core emotional issue of how trauma comes to be stored across the whole myofascial system. I will tell you now: there is NOTHING of any permanent use that can be done by someone rubbing the fascia just beneath your skin, which is sadly the extent of his method. I consider his whole practice therefore to be a scam (and the procedures aren’t cheap, either).
      Myers’ analysis of anatomy however is first-rate and his diagrams of the myofascial meridians are extremely accurate in my experience.

      Berceli was a good source but it was too early in my development for me to grasp how on-point it was.

      I have not seriously read Buddhist scripture in terms of sitting and reading the whole lot through (has anyone? There’s an awful lot of it!)
      I would like to know, are there scriptures where all this body stuff is just laid out, in a problem-solution way?

      What about Hindu sources? Obviously they have hatha yoga to deal with this stuff; my issue was that certain body areas were so compacted that many of the poses were impossible and/or caused great pain. I went to classes but got tired of being put in the corner with the pregnant women and other disableds with no instructor actually teaching me properly about this stuff. (The reality is, they are clueless in this country.)

      Very interested to see this Taoist source you mention!

      • Gedanken says:

        Excerpts are bit hard to share as I’ve been reading the physical books. Sourcewise though, there is this podcast episode of Damo’s where he dives quite a bit into the idea of the “Yi Jin Jing” (muscle-tendon changing classics):

        Bookwise there is his “Daoist Nei Gong” and the section where he talks about “Sung Breathing” and how it works as a means to release trauma/emotional issues stored in the fascia. Beyond that there is “A Comprehensive Guide to Daoist Nei Gong”, and in particular chapters 3 and 4 on the Qi Gong body and working the body.

        I myself am not fully well-versed in the model and the ideas behind it however from what I’ve looked into thus far it is the only one that seems to go deeper than surface level in terms of explaining the issue at hand and deals more with the root cause.

        TBH, I veer towards the ancient arts for answers to these matters as opposed to more modern theories/models (TRE etc) because these things IMO have already been figured out. It’s just that the art gets lost and misinterpreted over time, and then it becomes a matter of having to find those who truly understand and who can actually explain/are willing to as well.

        I have travelled around recently too and been provided with the same generic advice from monastics, “just sit through it, it’s just the Qi reaching blockages in the channels that need to be worked through etc”. Did you ever look into the 2 sources mentioned at the end of the MCTB chapter; Jack Kornfield’s book and Robert Hoover?

        Buddhist scriptures don’t touch on body work or stuff like that. At least not in any depth or detail. The closest tradition that do work more on the body first would be Tibetan/Vajrayana who are generally closed-doored with their practices. Everyone else seems to be “mind-focused” and want to avoid focusing or emphasing the body so as to detach from the form skhanda, but unfortunately when one has these experiences it clearly shows the link of mind to body as when these states manifest the mind becomes “unworkable”.

        Aside from Tibetan Buddhism, Chinese Buddhism is quite likely the closest you’ll get to any acceptance or greater understanding of working with the body because of the influence of Taoism. In the tradition I follow full lotus is highly emphasised, I believe this is primarily for the energetic reasoning and purpose behind it as it builds up and locks in the energy/Qi in the bodily system when sitting. It was shortly after that I started sitting (in truth, forcing) myself to sit in full lotus that the involuntary movements and tremors began.

        Hatha yoga again in today’s age is really a shell of it’s former art. There are 8 limbs to yoga and hatha yoga is only one of those limbs (the 3rd) and nowadays is just done for physical “health and wellness”, not necessarily for the internal change in energy etc.

        The inflexibility and pain signifies blockages in channels (nadis or chi channels) where the Qi/Prana must work through in order to make one more limber and functioning well.

      • Jrager says:

        >I would like to know, are there scriptures where all this body stuff is just laid out, in a problem-solution way?

        The closest I know is this meditation developed from the Kāyagatāsati Sutta:

        It was popular in ancient China and produced such good results for Buddhists that Taoists adopted it.

  3. Tydestorm says:

    The above is the journal of a man’s experiences with TRE over the course of a few years. Figured it might be of interest to someone. It contains plenty of useful info for beginners.

    • Pug says:

      Thank you for this, I have started reading it and his recount of how much TRE changed his life is so insightful and amazing :).

      I am going to start trying out TRE in someway or another during this lockdown we’re all in like Illuminatus advised.

    • Illuminatus says:

      Thanks Tydestorm, will check it out.

  4. Hesychasmos says:

    How funny that 4 days ago I wanted to ask you on the forum if you know a fast method to ‘activate the psoas’ and even considering to create a topic, but decided that is not the the right time because lately your focus was towards AWA.

    I agree with everything you’ve said but the semi fetal + haitemoba didn’t work for some reason, maybe it’s the diference in the conformations of the body. I got only my belly under navel to tremor a little. The focus on breath + make body go limb it’s a kind of meditation I practice a lot, so no tremors.

    After reading your post again where you say that Berceli exercises work by fatiguing the psoas I remebered what tremors are and got me wondering, so this is my question:

    Is TRE the same as activating the psoas?
    For me are quite different. After doing tremors I just feel a kind of numbness wich sometimes can be pleasant and that’s all. When I do what i call activating the psoas it feels like cold electric currents from pelvis up the spine and down to inside part of the knees and it’s refreshing and energising at same time. If those cold electricity waves get above the neck I get rapture. Nipples get hard too, actualy is the same sensation like when playing with nipples (or stroke gently tip of fingers over skin) but inside the body and way more powerful and on the same circuit every time. These are real sensations not meditative states, not kundalini. After psoas activating, posture is perfect and body feels like after all day at the spa. The same feels when you abstain a long from peeing and sudently you get a relief and life seems greater than ever :). Cold currents orginate from same place in the pelvic area as in tremors from what I sense.
    So, are these the same for you ? Do they converge? Do you get cold electricity waves from TRE? Does walking feel easier and more natural to you after doing TRE?

    Thanks. Great topic, can’t wait to see what more you have on this .

    • Illuminatus says:


      Cool bodily bliss seems to originate where the vagus nerves join into the gut; in short it is a “satisfaction” signal (rest and digest). This map of the VN may reflect the spread of that cool bliss:

      (On a side note, if anyone can find me a really good 3D map of the vagus nerves, it would be much appreciated.)

      I don’t get cool bliss from TRE. However, I can activate it from just about any sort of concentration meditation. E.g. even just gazing at a flame without using afterimage will cause such cool bliss after around 30-40 minutes.

      As far as I understand, TRE as taught by Berceli is all about activating the psoas. Post your method and I’ll check it out.

  5. Pretheesh says:

    Not running away from disturbing thoughts and sensations, just simply sitting with whatever might help in triggering the bodily rest mode from which everything can be released through shivering/trembling/shaking, etc.
    Yesterday before sleep I laid down on the bed like a dead body, not knowing what to do with thoughts and tightness in the body, I had periods of opening up of nostrils, better breathing for sometime etc.
    But did not allowed till activating of that rest mode in which releasing of blockages could be initiated. I know from past experience that such releasing can be initiated just by sitting on a chair, where I felt very cool peaceful liquid flowing through the body from head to toe at the end of shivering and shaking.
    But I think the key is to sit without forcing to have that experience or escaping.

  6. Jrager says:

    Great post, cheers for this.

    I first tried these ~4 years ago, but didn’t stick with it for very long. Going through all those stretches beforehand made me less keen to practice it, but thankfully I was able to induce the shaking after just lifting my pelvis briefly, then just by thinking about it thenceforth. The side posture you recommend is a great improvement. Really improves the range of movement for me and being able to switch sides when fatigued allows for longer sessions. This really works on the tension in the solar plexus and abdominal region, which has been reoccurring for me, so I’m willing to invest in this tech long term.

  7. Andrew says:

    Great to see this post, very timely for many i imagine.

    Beliefs/fears/trauma are all “stored” as restrictions in movement within the body. As the psoas is where movement “originates” (after the decision has been made (by the brain in ouir head) to move), this is also the place where most movement restictions are “held” and the energy/e-motions (energy in motion, stuck in this instance) that accompanies this. This is what the system does, when in “fear”, don’t move. By restoring movement, whether through the use of neurogenic tremors and/or consistent movement practice that targets every last place where you might find movement restrictions (often referred to as “tension”), you “free” this energy/emotion along with the movement restriction. This can take some time but for most people i don’t believe it needs to – I have been tremoring for a few years now for about 30 minutes most mornings but i had a lot to work with (long story – disease was movement related – i couldn’t move through fear and had huge clusters/”blocks” – reached the point where toenails we going blackish through lack of blood/energy). Yoga is a healing modality designed for this very purpose – to seek out these movement restrictions “tension”, smile at them (the smile being the physical representation of acceptance/love) or maintain a “neutral” face (the power of that is a whole other discussion) to set them free/get them moving again. You can use other movement modalities with the same understanding but yoga (asanas and breathing techniques) is very well designed to get to every “nook and cranny” of the human body.

    • Illuminatus says:

      Thanks Andrew, very interesting. I would like to hear more about “neutral face” as I use that in my own practice, if possible?

  8. Andrew says:

    restrictions/”tension”, apologies for typo – not a fan of typing, i find myself only replying to your work lately, must be good! 😉 .

  9. Pat says:

    I got the TRE book around late 2013 and practiced them from then until early 2014, and I can still activate the tremors without the exercises. I’m glad you posted this, as I forgot how beneficial they can be.

    • Illuminatus says:

      Hey Pat! Are things as bad as they say they are in New York with coronavirus?

      • Pat says:

        It much worse the closer to urban areas you are. I hear it’s bad in NYC and certain parts of Westchester. My county, which is the smallest in the state, had something like the third or fourth most cases in NY state, and it is in commuting distance with NYC. I currently work at a hospital, and people are dying constantly. Overall, it’s pretty serious.

  10. Panzershrek says:

    One of the most important stances to do is the Shaolin horse stance. Here’s why: most people have had traumatic events happened to them and have emotional “blocks”. Animals usually do not hold on to trauma and the reason is that they shake.

    The shaking mechanism is inbuilt in all mammals. When a gazelle escapes a lion attack, you will see that it starts to tremble and shake. There are many other examples if you observe. In war zones, we see children get into a fetal position and shake. In societies, we see shaking as some sort of weakness and we ask children to stop doing that. That is the reason humans have forgotten how to activate the shaking mechanism. Trauma trapped in the body will cause depression, ptsd and health problems as the vital energy stops flowing the way it should. This will cause negative reaction patterns and problems in relationships and careers. The reason many people find it hard to meditate and focus is because the mind will be preoccupied with mental chatter. You can’t really force your mind to focus and if you do to attempt to do that, it will cause more tension.

    The horse stance is a part of the shaolin tradition and bioenergetics. What the horse stance does is release the psoas muscle which is the body’s powerhouse(dantien/hara/solar plexus chakra) and also the place where most if not all the trauma is stored. When your legs start trembling, your body is attempting to release the tension stored within it. When the body has released all the mascular tension, you will naturally produce more heat and you’ll feel more energetic. You can’t be vital if you’ve got muscle tension. When you’re in a cold environment, your body will activate the shaking to release tension and produce heat. The reason people get the common cold when they take cold showers is because there are blockages in the body that have not been dealt with.

    If there’s one exercise you can do in the day it will be the horse stance.’

    Dancing is also basically shaking medicine which all shamanistic traditions follow. To release emotions, it is best to stop distracting ourselves with entertainment, shopping ,mindless browsing and other similar activities and sit alone without wanting to do anything. What that does is makes suppressed emotions come up so if you feel like crying, cry as much as you want. That will release the blocked energy in the muscles.

    Cultures that practice the shaking medicine:
    1)Shaking quakers of New England
    2) Kalahari bushmen
    3) The Minnesota shakers
    4) Australian aboriginal people
    5) The Chinese tradition of Waidangong and 5 animal play.
    6) The spiritual baptists of st Vincent.
    7) Seiki Jutsu of Japan
    8) Traditional African American churches
    9) Maori Haka dance

    Further resources:
    1) Shaking medicine – Bradford Keeney
    2) Trauma releasing exercises – David Bercelli
    3) The Way to Vibrant Health: A Manual of Bioenergetic Exercises
    4) David Hawkin’s – Letting Go

    • Hesychasmos says:

      Christianity also – slain in the Spirit. On orthodox denomination is part of exorcism practice.

    • Jrager says:

      Shaking is also seen a lot in some Indian traditions, often with Shaktipat. Sri Aurobindo emphasizes this descending spiritual force as the key to transformation.

      I once asked a clairvoyant Shaman to observe me as I shook intensely during meditation and he told me he saw serpent energy (Shaman term for Shakti I assume) descending into me. It can get very intense at times, especially for the neck. “When the Lord makes contact with you, he doesn’t send down a grinning photograph; he takes you by the neck”.

    • Illuminatus says:

      Thanks Panzershrek!

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