Mindful Yawning Experiment

My apologies for not updating the site very much these last few months. I’ve been working on two projects: writing the new jhana guide, which is shaping up nicely, and my posture method, which is what I’m going to talk about today.

The posture method is called “Mindful Yawning”. Its premise is simple: that all postural problems (besides injury) are caused by myofascial adhesion — connective tissue that surrounds the muscles becoming stuck to and winding around the nerves — and that all adhesions can be “unstuck” using yawning (or elements taken from the yawn), and in fact that the whole purpose of yawning is to release adhered fascia. The slogan of my method could be something like:

Good posture for all using the body’s own corrective processes.

While my method has worked completely for me, and I am 99% sure it is “the answer”, I need to see how transferable the knowledge is, and therefore the best ways to get it out of my head and into yours. The purpose of this post is to ask for your help by giving you the basic method and seeing how easily you take to it, and whether you get any benefits from it. So I am asking for a little of your time (which has the potential to actually change your life, especially if you suffer with things like a bad back which basically shouldn’t happen) and report the results in the comments section.

What follows is an exercise to introduce you to the basic method, and it is from a suite of similar exercises in my method which all use the same premise to create myofascial release.

The Exercise

1. Stand up. Bend the arms at the elbows and point the fists in the air, like this guy, but with both arms matching the lower one to start off with:


2. Squeeze your calf muscles quite hard for a couple of seconds, then suddenly release them.

3. You are now looking out for the “release wave” from the calves to begin spreading up the body. Hopefully you hear a rushing sound in your ears like you do on any regular yawn (that rushing sound indicates that, somewhere, some fascia is being released). You can open your mouth a little to encourage that sound if it is not already evident.

4. Let the “release wave” spread up exactly as it wants to and have it gently move or sway your limbs and other parts of your body exactly as it wants to. Fascia is literally stuck to nerves, wrapped around it in a spiral due to repeated adhesion. When it releases, the tendency is therefore for body parts to gently move and rotate as the spiral unsticks and unravels. (All these little movements and processes, I call “elements of the yawn”.) What you are trying to do is to let this process unfold exactly as it wishes. If it becomes a “full yawn” by itself, then that’s great! Please note that this process is often extremely slow from start to completion, and that this is normal and correct.


  • Fascia connects areas of the body that are far apart as well as close together. The result of this is that a release starting in the calf can quickly spread up the body, e.g. into the neck and shoulders, because there is a continuous strip of fascia between the two points. The fascial strip is wrapped around a nerve in the calf at one end, and a nerve in the neck or arm or shoulder at the other end. Many points in the body can be connected in this way. A strip can be wrapped around other nerves in between, too, which is why the automatic release process (known colloquially as a yawn) is often slow. We generally start with the lower body because adhesions down there have more influence on the upper body than vice versa. The effect I really want you to notice is that you can (bizarrely) get a huge release in the neck area coming straight off of a squeeze-and-release in the calves. This model may seem counter-intuitive at first but is the nature of the “global” fascia model: everything is connected to everything else. A tightness problem “up here” not only often has its cause “down there” but in fact this is usually so. This is why we do as much with the lower body first: releases will always tend to spread upward.
    • Further to this point, the neck area is a huge point of convergence for fascial strips. The nerves either side of the neck get fascia wrapped around them coming in from all over the body. So, wherever in the body the release wave begins, it will tend to at some point cross over the neck and release something there (and often then down into the arms) simply because everything meets at the neck. This is the reason why the jaw is so involved in yawning, as it stimulates the nerves in the neck which have fascia wound around them coming in from all over the body.
  • A major point I will keep repeating is to let the release unfold exactly as it wants. The main aim of this programme is to let the body release itself via its own processes. So, do not start stretching and pulling at things using your conscious mind! Don’t pull at something because it seems like a good idea! There are some exercises in the complete programme which do use conscious intentional release, but these are a relatively minor part of the overall system and are for very specific problem areas. You must forget about them for now. The main basis of this programme is using the body’s own automatic releases processes: “the body knows best”. It is “releasing” (unsticking), not “stretching”.
    • A result of the above is that the release wave is often very slow in movement and propagation around the body. Half the time you will standing there, hearing the rushing sound, but with body parts barely moving at all. This is completely correct! The fascia release in that case is taking place on a micro-level and it takes time. As always, if you can hear the rushing sound in your ears, the fascia is still being released somewhere!
  • I have picked the calves to start off with for specific reasons relating to their being a centre of gravity for the body and also because they tend to get VERY wound. In other words, there are LOTS of myofascial adhesions wrapped around the nerves in the calves, and as anyone who has ever had their calves massaged knows, it hurts like hell for this reason. A fascial release wave started in the calves will spread into the toes, and also rapidly propagate upwards into the hips (another major wind area due to sitting) and then upwards to the neck, arms, and basically everywhere else.
    • However, a release wave can be started at any major nerve by squeezing and releasing the muscle at that nerve! But stay with the calves for now, please.

So, a “yawn” is a myofascial release wave which spreads around the body as an automatic corrective process. In the Mindful Yawning programme, we are simply triggering this wave intentionally then letting it run its course multiple times to unwind adhesions which have been layered again and again over the course of your life by sedentary processes such as sitting and lying.

I would like you to test this method using the calves, letting it run through a complete yawn process across the body several times, and report back in the comments section as to what has improved and how easy you found it. Again, do not rush any of it as most of it is slow as hell, and repetitive. You cannot rush micro-level release.

I am particularly interested in hearing from people with really poor posture, and having them run through this exercise 10-20 times and telling me if it noticeably changes their shape. Yes, this will take some time, but if I’m right about this (and I’m 99% sure I am), it is THE way to fix yourself and get your body to a natural state of having close to zero myofascial adhesions. Furthermore, I will really appreciate the feedback! 🙂

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35 Responses

  1. Kevin says:

    This is so weird and cool! I tried the method a couple times, not expecting anything. First time, I didn’t feel much – just felt like I was about to fall over. Gave it one more try, and my hips started moving a little. I reminded myself not to exert control, and the hips started moving further, side to side. The movement got bigger, until it turned into an ellipse. That happened for a while (probably 3 minutes) until the hips abruptly changed directions and moved in an ellipse forward and backward. After a couple minutes of that, the movement opened up into a full circle that gained speed and size, until it reached its max and slowed down gradually, but within just a few seconds, until there was no circling or swaying. This unfolded over about 8 minutes and was quite the surreal experience.

    It’s interesting that my hips were moving so wildly, as I have the most trouble with them from sitting too much. I don’t notice any posture change yet, but I’ll keep doing this to see what happens.

    • Illuminatus says:

      Haha! Classic unwinding. πŸ™‚

      The posture changes will happen with time and repetition. If you think about it, you are undoing a whole lifetime of winds — in the order of hundreds of thousands if not millions. Fascia is extremely stretchy and can be wound so many times before it breaks (and most of those little clicks you might hear when you stand up, or work out, or “crack your neck” etc. are ultra-wound strips of fascia breaking). So unwinding is like unwinding thousands of elastic bands which have been wound round nerves and joints hundreds of times. It takes ages but there are also sudden larger releases at times.

      You will probably also find that one side of the body “rides up” while unwinding a lot more than the other at times. E.g. my left hip sways up and down in a larger arc while unwinding than the right one does, and my whole body and head will tend to turn to the left a lot more. Why? Because I sleep in a more twisted position on the left side, and also because I put my body weight through my left hip while using a computer to stabilize myself. My right side also has its own common unwind patterns. Practically your whole lifetime history is stored in your fascia.

  2. K says:

    Can’t wait for your Jhana guide !!! πŸ™‚

  3. Benjo says:

    This did nothing for me

    • Illuminatus says:

      Can you try squeezing your buttock muscles instead of your calves and see if that initiates a release wave?

      Also, can you try breathing in slowly through your mouth after the squeeze-and-release to see if it encourages the upward spread of release?


  4. kelo says:

    WOW! Just tried this and it works. πŸ™‚

    Felt a bit similar to TRE as I started to have tremors too? πŸ™‚

  5. seb says:

    I just tried doing these. But I am not sure if understand the instuctions fully,
    This is what I did, I stood up in a yawning position like the above picture, then I was squessing my calf like calf rise. Like this:


    Then I released my calf and waited for the “release wave” but nothing happened?

    What did I do wrong?

    • Illuminatus says:

      I was not using a calf raise but rather a general squeeze of the muscle, like you would flex a biceps. So rather than an exercise like lifting, it is just a quick squeeze and sudden release.

      Can you try squeezing your buttock muscles instead of your calves and see if that initiates a release wave?

      Also, can you try breathing in slowly through your mouth after the squeeze-and-release to see if it encourages the upward spread of release?


  6. seb says:

    Will Try this in a bit. Thanks!

  7. firstly, love your approach to many things. i’ve been doing this for some time now (last 3 – 4 years) based on my own findings with regards to facial expressions being able to initiate tremors/yawning/fascial release (and then the cascade begins down through the neck etc). A combination of neuro chemistry (through facial expressions with breathing) and moving/exercising the muscles of the face to facilitate release all over the body. I actually found that the face was the key starting point and will explain in more detail if we ever get to chat sometime.

  8. seb says:


    I tried with the Buttocks now and it works. Alltough I am not sure about the Wave thing. But the body starts to tremor, just like TRE πŸ™‚

    The first thing that happens is that there that neck locks up and tense up, the later there is tremor starting the legs and moving around in the body. πŸ™‚

  9. seb says:

    Illuminatus, have you seen any behavioral change by doing this and other posture work?

    • Illuminatus says:

      I would say that the initial change from hunchback to someone with reasonably good posture was very positive for me in terms of improving a sense of stature, confidence and freedom in the body.

      However, when it comes to unlocking “perfect posture”, there is a bit more to it than what I have written in the above method. The above is a basic level of mindfulness which must be understood before moving on. Getting perfect posture involves doing very subtle and specific unwinds using a high degree of mindfulness of each nerve — it is almost like surgery. Figuring out that technique took me many years — there aren’t any materials available about it, because I actually doubt anyone knows how to do it or, if they do they haven’t tried to teach it. So, to be clear here, I do not believe any of the materials I have looked into that are available on the web have come close to cracking this properly — so there may well be a niche for me here. It depends how easily the full method can be taught. For the next phase I will need real-life volunteers and I’m already arranging that.

      During those 4 years or so I was creating the method, I became highly obsessive about it (and I think a degree of obsession is needed to create a project like this from scratch). It has consumed much of my waking thought. I also hurt myself a few times (inflammation from overdoing an incorrect method) while working through a trial-and-error list to find out what worked. This hit my mood very negatively. My “behaviour” with regard to the rest of the world turned far more towards the negative during this time, and I am only turning that all around these last 6 months or so.

      One major positive thing all the posture work did, but particularly this “perfect posture” method I haven’t written up yet, was to make meditation infinitely easier. So I attribute things like getting a kundalini awakening to the increased freedom within the body and straightening of the spine. Meditation is all about creating a coherent upward vertical energy stream (the good meditations are, anyway). One thing you will come across if you talk to enough people about their meditation practice is that many of them experience something like their head beginning to sway annoyingly as they relax into the meditation method, or their body suddenly feeling tight and their posture becoming really uncomfortable. This is described well here: http://www.dharmaoverground.org/web/guest/dharma-wiki/-/wiki/Main/MCTB+3.+The+Three+Characteristics/pop_up
      This entire set of symptoms is, in my opinion, caused by myofascial winding around nerves. The body really doesn’t like it! My method allows this phase to be skipped entirely by directly, surgically, unwinding fascia from around the uncomfortable nerves. I believe it was when I developed a serious amount of internal freedom that I was able to start getting jhana within seconds, and being able to channel kundalini, and things like that.

      In general, the more free you are in the body, the easier meditation will come. This is the whole purpose of hatha yoga. My method is just a lot more specific in terms of unwinding, though yoga is still good as it has many other functions and benefits (such as conditioning energy channels via body shapes/poses).

  10. James says:

    One of the keys to me curing my migrains was stretching my neck/back out.

    I binged on some chocolate cup cakes (sugar=inflammation) last night, and I woke up today sleeping weird, had an awful headache, nasuea blah blah blah.

    Layed down on a foam roller so I was stretching my neck and all my symptoms were gone in 20 minutes, where as at times migraines can last days.

  11. pawel says:

    I tested calves and buttocks and neither of them worked. What worked was replicating the rushing sound – this was key. I can replicate it to some extent by manipulating muscles in my throat/jaw/face only, but it’s easier with the hand posture you posted.

    Inducing the rushing sound few times caused a wave of shaking move through the body, like you described. Yawning one time invokes a feeling of energy (like electricity) moving over the surface of skin from top to bottom of the body. The energy probably moves inside the tissues as well, but I’m not sensitive enough to feel it.

    It’d be beneficial to have a more reliable technique to induce this. What nerves are stimulated with this technique btw?

    • Illuminatus says:

      Yes, replicating the rushing sound also creates effects. The whole purpose of a yawn is to withdraw the main nerves back towards the spine: http://images.wisegeek.com/labeled-nerves-on-body-including-radial-nerve.jpg They become stuck in the extended position after limb use or being sedentary.

      All these nerves are “lit up” during the rushing sound. The rushing sound correlates with the fascial winds around them lubricating and becoming soft so that the nerve can slip between them as they withdraw back towards the spine. The head-turning and body movements and pandiculation during a yawn are to facilitate the creation of PATHS so that the nerve can withdraw. (Yawning/pandiculation is all about nerves and fascia, NOT about stretching muscles as previously thought — though that also happens to a minor degree as a by-product).

      The reason the jaw moves during a yawn is that there are “control nerves” entering the skull which connect into and control the main nerve network. These nerves are also in the cheeks and behind/under the eyes (the latter being why REM happens). This is also the source of the correlation between body pose, emotion and facial expression. Every part of the body is connected into the face somewhere. Two major hotspots of connection are either side of the jaw, where those major nerves slip under the jaw into the skull. Fascia winds around these while sleeping and especially during computer use. The reason for the latter is that while sat at a computer the head is forcibly held in place while the hands manipulate the keyboard and mouse. This means fascia from the arms is continuously being threaded around those neck nerves. While sleeping something similar happens whereby the head moves slightly on the pillow while the rest of the body is static. In any case, a yawn slowly but surely stimulates those neck nerves to shed their fascial winds and therefore free the whole body.

      To see this happening, do this:

      – Open the left side of your jaw only while keeping your mouth shut. I realize that’s a paradox. Bear with me. Begin to make the motion of opening the left side of your mouth, but do it very slowly (we are talking about moving in a small range, like 1 millimetre of movement, rather than just “opening your mouth”). Tell me if the left side of your head bobs up and down or spins from side to side in an “unwinding” motion.

      This principle itself, repeated a million times, can literally unwind the whole body since winds always, for some reason, terminate at the jaw.

      If you have tightness anywhere in the body, you can simply hold that tightness in awareness then use mindfulness to find which side of the mouth to open, and you will get this micro-unwinding taking place whereby the head bobs up/down side/side in often very small arcs and this (almost inexplicably) unwinds a knot “down there”. This is a major part of a complete system and I guarantee results if it is done correctly.

      Compare the above to the standard massage approach of just rubbing, say, the leg. The problem is actually in the neck! What I have found is that most corrective approaches are just plain wrong once you figure out all the problems are due to fascial winding around the neck nerves, and I can probably prove it in time.

      • Once again, love your work. This is exactly what i have been doing by utilising facial expressions to induce tremors – utilising the chemistry that happens with certain expressions along with taking muscles and fascia through ranges of motion that effectively “unstick” them and cause massive amounts of yawning and tongue/mouth tremors as tension is released. Chemically “relaxing” to allow further ranges of motion until unwinding begins. Like in TRE with the psoas. We really should talk sometime πŸ™‚

        • Illuminatus says:

          Hey πŸ™‚ Saw your last message, just didn’t have much to add.

          What I found is that a lot of the methods I made up over the years did something beneficial by accident, meaning that the positive effect was not caused via the mechanism I assumed but that rather the method was turning on some nerve or other in a side-effect way. This is how I managed to waste so much time over the years chasing methods which did not work directly in the way we should be aiming for.

          I now believe even tremors to be largely a red herring. They are like “micro-unwinds” but the time is better spent on specific winds in the neck.

          Do you mind spending some time investigating fine winds around the nerves in the neck and face? Fascia from all over the body comes in to this area and can get wound around nerves there, leading to complex winds. The treatment is always the same: turn the nerve on (by, e.g., opening the mouth or raising the eyebrows or doing these other micro-motions which involve nerves in the neck/jaw/face/head turning on) then letting the head move in the little circular motions (side/side, up/down) while the fascia fine wind unwinds from around the nerve you are activating.

          I believe this might make your method more specific. At the moment it sounds like you are achieving these “incidental nerve turn-ons” I mentioned earlier.

          BTW, when it comes to “surface adhesions” (e.g. large stretches of fascia stuck to others like you see them releasing via the stretching manual intervention you see on YouTube, including in sensitive spots like the inside of the mouth), I currently believe these are red herrings. The nerve windings are the real problem, and once nerve length is regained (since nerves actually get shorter when they are coiled up by having fascia wound around them, which is the real cause of e.g. rounded shoulders) then those large surface adhesions seem to just slip apart by themselves.

          In other words I’m getting down to the real nitty-gritty of what this is all about now, and it is revealing to me that perhaps 95% of the current methodology is nonsense red herrings, at best treating symptoms not causes.

          • ha ha, like you i “wasted” time and ended up going back to simple things – often related to body language (relaxed wrists and “flow face” when adopting the recovery position to induce tremors in psoas etc). I would agree that much of current methodology is nonsense and just supports ongoing treatments with no end. One thing i learned was that reading no longer gets me anywhere, it’s all in feeling and practice. I’ve spent long enough trying new things (took me 4 years to get well) and luckily no longer need to. The most effective thing for me (along with the inducement of tremors – i just can’t red herring them at this time, they helped me, whatever their real role) was facial expressions/movement with nasal breathing which would cause yawning/pandiculation/”release” in the face tongue/mouth and then a feeling of release in the neck/top of traps/scalenes etc. This played a massive part in my opinion as it changed my chemistry through both direct stimulation from the facial nerves (and the muscles/nerves of the eyes in particular) and by releasing pressure on the cranial bones and their affect on the pituitary/pineal (in particular) through the sphenoid bone being “pushed back” (amongst other subtle things that i am sure were going on). It also effected postural change due to the relationship between the jaw muscles and the neck muscles/hyoid bone/atlas vertebrae etc and this would have put less stress (and more relief) on the very areas you are working with (nervous system at the atlas is highly important). The pressure caused by a tight superficial back line in “compressing” the head can obviously be relieved by working with the neck and upper traps so this has to be an important area to say the least. Also the muscles of the upper jaw hence the release to be found in the kiss/smile/breathe technique. The changes in chemistry that happened caused a change in mood/perception and therefore a change in muscle/fascia “tension”. So i would go along with your theory as one particularly profound “release” was right at the top of the spine (at the area around the brain stem) where micro tremors were taking place and causing profound feelings of “release” right throughout my skull. These “tremors” were brought on by facial “relaxation” inducing yawning etc – Effectively facilitating the mindbody relax to the point that it feels it can start to do it’s healing work. And so it begins re-programming. No focusing, just an entry into a flow like state combined with protected yet calm body language – and let the body do what it does. I think i know enough to know that it’s all to complicated for me to ever truly understand – but what i do know is that the tremors induced in my perineum were not a red herring in terms of my recovery – whether they were simply a symptom of recovery or a cause i’ll probably never truly know but they certainly felt like they were doing the job. I’m at a point now where there’s not really anything left to focus on i’m afraid – i won’t be doing this myself as i only need to do the kiss now and again to remove any build up of tension due to lifestyle stresses or whatever may come my way. What i would say though is that i think you are on to something huge. Whatever it’s final form, i believe you will help many many people with this – i wish you luck and if you ever want to skype, give me a shout.

          • Rigz says:

            I’ve just tried this for a couple of hours straight. When I tried it with the left side of my neck underneath the jaw, it tensed up and went into spasm, and felt like a hard block of muscle. I let that relax and then the head started pivoting around a point in the left side of the neck. Each pivot seemed to highlight tense areas deep in the neck, and I then allowed the pivot to “move into” those tense areas and carry on. I let this go on by itself and it was accompanied by what felt like neurotransmitter release. I had shivers, and felt a rush go into my head. As I let this carry on, eventually I felt a significant “release”, which was accompanied by a relaxation of some deep muscles in the neck and a loud crack in the neck. I got a big rush into my head and my vision totally blurred for a few seconds.

            I then did the same with the right side of the neck, allowing the same process of the head pivoting highlighting tense areas, then allowing the pivot “into” those areas, but this time I got a much more violent release. I felt my right trapezius muscle and shoulder blade slip backwards, accompanied by a loud crack, and with this movement came a huge sense of release in the neck, but also shock. I relaxed and allowed the pivot to continue, now with a much wider range of motion on the right side of the neck, but felt it go down into my hip and that started violently spasming. I could both feel and hear a sort of crackling electrical current going from the right side of my neck down to my hip. I tried to relax and allow it to continue but at this point my heart was racing and I was in a mild state of panic, so I decided to stop.

            My neck and right shoulder especially feels MUCH more free. The range of motion in my right shoulder has increased massively. However I am slightly worried because now I have opened this doorway, every time I go to meditate, my awareness cant help but go into the neck and the pivoting begins again. First of all I am wondering if what I am doing is actually unwinding, it certainly feels like it, and whether these large sort of movements that induce shock are something that I am just going to have to tolerate and accept. It’s not totally debilitating, but it was pretty scary when my shoulder “popped” back into place.

            Is there any way of doing this without such massive, borderline traumatic releases?

            • pawel says:

              Rigz, what exactly did you try? Did you already have a kundalini rise?

            • Illuminatus says:

              Hey Rigz,

              Unwinding should not be dysphoric and I intend to place the following key points at the start of any materials I release on this topic:

              1) NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS
              2) NO PAIN

              If either of those are happening, you’re doing it wrong.

              Now I will analyse bits of your post as best I can:

              “When I tried it with the left side of my neck underneath the jaw, it tensed up and went into spasm, and felt like a hard block of muscle.”

              It’s probably a nerve or cluster of nerves with literally hundreds of fascial winds around it. This comes mainly from computer use: the neck is held rigidly in place while the head stares at the screen; meanwhile the hands move on the mouse and keyboard. The fascia linking into the neck from the hands and arms micro-winds around the nerves in the neck. When you unwind this correctly, it consists of super-fine head movements and takes a LONG time to unwind those particular bundles. Even worse, other thicker strips of fascia tend to snag on those bundles and cause problems elsewhere in the body. This can all be dealt with with correct technique. (And I learn new techniques, and more about this, every day.)

              Just think: if you went for a massage, they would just “rub” that bundle. It might feel good, but can you unwind a ball of string by rubbing it? This is just the tip of the iceberg regarding where existing methods fall short (or literally do nothing).

              ” I let this go on by itself and it was accompanied by what felt like neurotransmitter release. I had shivers, and felt a rush go into my head. As I let this carry on, eventually I felt a significant β€œrelease”, which was accompanied by a relaxation of some deep muscles in the neck and a loud crack in the neck. I got a big rush into my head and my vision totally blurred for a few seconds.”

              The body is registering an injury and you are going into shock. Stop doing that.

              There are two causes of blurred vision however. The first is that there is a nerve which runs in the cheek just under the eye, and more nerves in the temple, which coordinate body movement and therefore attract fascial winds. If those nerves were involved in your unwinding efforts then they are close enough to the optic nerve to cause very temporary blurred vision (and I have had “glowing” vision as well where there was a sensation of more light — probably due to agitation of the optic nerve). You do not want to be experiencing this as the correct method does not cause so much movement of the nerves and therefore does not affect vision. The second cause of blurred vision is body shock, the fight-or-flight response, as adrenaline causes extra pressure in the eyeball. Obviously you want to avoid shock in your efforts.

              Personally I believe you are stumbling into genuine unwinding but your awareness is not refined enough yet to enter those microwinds and therefore to really address the cause. The issue is that those microwinds shorten nerves (by making them take non-straight paths) and decrease nerve range of motion (since they are wound) and the consequence is that larger myofascial winding takes place around the decreased nerve since it cannot move to accommodate body motion. Your unwinding efforts described in the post are address the latter — the big winds — but are tugging on the small winds and agitating the nerves, hence the shock and unpleasantness. So you will have done some temporary freedom by unwinding the larger stuff but it will just wind around the shortened nerve again in time as you move around. This is the main reason the various existing unwinding methods, and yoga, and various “fascial release” programmes, are not causing long-term fixes: they aren’t addressing the microwound nerves.

              The motions required to unwind the microwinds are very tiny and subtle, and require high awareness. To get started, you could try super-slowly raising just your right eyebrow to activate the nerves in the face. Does your head suddenly move/rotate in tiny little arcs? Do you feeling a tinging or “activation” in, say, the shoulder, or even lower in the body e.g. the hip? I have a fascial link from right hip through right armpit into right temple nerve because this is the fascial line that is active when I use the computer mouse, and that fascia has wound around those nerves in this microwind fashion.

              If you want to book a Skype session I can try to show you some stuff? I’m doing one with someone else on Tuesday so that should give me some idea of what can be taught over Skype.

              It is unfortunate that people can’t go away and check everything I just said — because the materials don’t seem to exist, apparently because not many other people have figured this stuff out to this degree. Oh well, hopefully it’s one of my contributions.

              “However I am slightly worried because now I have opened this doorway, every time I go to meditate, my awareness cant help but go into the neck and the pivoting begins again.”

              Yes, the awareness will keep going there now till the blockage is resolved — such is the way of meditation, and why the energy (kundalini) is thought to be “intelligent”, as it appears to seek out and resolve blocks both physical and emotional (and you might now find that what you considered “emotional” before has far more to do with the physical world since, in my experience, and emotional release practically always correlates with some physical release or other e.g. fascia). You are now into the “Three Characteristics” territory: http://www.dharmaoverground.org/web/guest/dharma-wiki/-/wiki/Main/MCTB+3.+The+Three+Characteristics

              You have two options. The first is to ignore the impulse to unwind and remain entirely still. If you want to get a jhana, just keep awareness on the breath or other object and ignore the physical sensations entirely.

              The second is to figure out unwinding and then let it run its course. The downside to this is that it takes fucking ages both to learn the tech correctly (and most people never do; hell it took me years and years) and to actually DO the unwinding, since there are so many winds. We have moved on from the days of yoga which relieves “gross winds”: we are into the age of computers which have introduced “fine winds”. The upside of going through this process however is the removal of blockages — and therefore far, far enhanced kundalini flow. I got my kundalini awakening automatically after learning the correct unwinding technique and unwinding significantly that the kundalini nerve channels were very open. The power to meditate effectively is increased a hundredfold. When I say I can get jhana within seconds I am not exaggerating. Unwinding also renders all posture and movement techniques redundant because no winds = perfect posture by default. Learning to unwind also teaches one all sorts about the nerves one has in one’s body and how to turn them on at will leading to the ability to direct energy to various “circuits” etc. etc.

              • Rigz says:

                Thanks dude. I’m going to work on my awareness by doing the microwinds. You’re right, my shoulder and neck, though freer than before, definitely isn’t as free as it was yesterday, so some rewinding has already taken place. I am trying to “zoom in” on smaller and smaller areas in the neck and let the head pivot around that, this is definitely training concentration. The large, tense areas of hard spasm, can be zoomed in on and smaller parts of them can be focused on. The head pivots then get more subtle, smaller ranges of motion, and less violent.

                I am assuming that the more you “zoom in”, the more you are focusing on smaller and smaller nerve clusters and their sub-clusters, eventually perhaps down to individual nerves. I can’t do that yet but I can see how that would be possible. So I literally need to do this but with tens of thousands of nerves, and do this for hours everyday, for the next few years, to achieve total unwinding?

                Heh, alright. I was gonna do insight meditation anyway so I might as well just do it this way.

                • Illuminatus says:

                  When you get down to the tiny nerves, that’s what REM is for. πŸ™‚

                  If you got the correct method from me over video I reckon you could do almost a complete unwind in about a week. The main time problem for me was learning the actual method.

                  Most of the method is just yawning-plus-awareness. The awareness is particularly about running current up through large nerves in e.g. the legs and abandon — the ones that get buried in fascia during computer use and then aren’t freed by a standard (non-mindful yawn) and aren’t freed by common movements like walking. All of those are the most important to fix, and a lot of them terminate in microwinds at the neck but not all of them. The microwinds are easiest understood in the context of the larger yawn (what is going on in the bigger picture with fascia; how it sticks to nerves and “buries” them etc.). Microwinds become easy to do once the basic method is understood and practised properly — in fact most of them require no special attention. So I do recommend you get a Skype session with me. I could even go to work then not yawn afterwards so I have lots of computer microwinds to show you unwinding. πŸ™‚

                  • Illuminatus we really need to chat sometime. I don’t want to write an essay on here about my own findings but we are so “on the same page” – there are however some things i’d love to suggest to you and to listen to your thoughts on them too. I don’t believe that we need mindfulness on this for example as i believe that by utilising transient hypo frontality, the body will find and do it’s work without any input other than the body language/movement. Anyway i’ve said enough already, let me know if you are interested and if you have time and we’ll chat. If not, continued good luck with this wonderful work.

                • pawel says:

                  Rigz, what did you try, exactly?

  12. Yuki says:

    Well I have tried this for many days now, nothing is happening,

    I tried squizing the calve muscles and the butt muscles, with breathing from mouth and yawning from mouth… but nothing is happening

  13. Clayton says:

    I experienced the swaying and movement described. It reminded me of the piti I would get during meditation except I was standing. Shaking/tremors and significant swaying. I did the exercise 5 times in a row initially but it didn’t seem to do anything then I tried again a few minutes later and was surprised that it started working. Would love to be a guinea pig if you need more people to experiment and report back.

  14. Rigz says:

    I was wondering what you thought of this information here: http://www.chalicebridge.com/FasciaMem-Pg6-Theory.html concerning the relation between fascia, emotions, and memories. It covers many of the same topics you have come up with over the years, from fascial winding (they call it “pleating”), holographic memories, and mind/body work.

    • Illuminatus says:

      It’s an interesting piece. It seems heavy on conjecture at the moment, but maybe something will come of it.

      Couple of points. Firstly, my method is now “final” (meaning I’m consistently getting what I want from it and fixing old, old problems) — but it looks different in methodology from the one I described in my own post above. In other words, the “flex and release” style is not really going to feature in my final method if I manage to be able to teach it to others. My current method is far more high-resolution, which is needed. That’s because the “pleats” (nice word, by the way — “winding” is a consequence of pleats upon pleats and I’d been looking for a new umbrella term for a while) can be micro-fine. This is where REM comes in — and tremors, though so far I do still do not believe tremors are required or even desirable when high-resolution, high-mindfulness awareness is brought in. At this point REM and, often, very subtle unwinding motions do all of that and tremors are kind of “spray and pray” in that sense. I’m going to talk to our buddy Andrew from the above comments tonight and get some of his tremor tech to see if that changes my mind.

      My second point takes us back to the article in the link you just posted. Firstly, whereas his focus is currently on the emotional side, with emotions being “stored” in “fascial memory”, I am far, far more concerned with the straight mechanical aspects of winding/pleating. So, I am still of the opinion that the major problems come directly from mechanical distortions caused by sleep position (and failure to yawn them out — due to the complexities of distortion allowed by modern beds/ sleeping habits) and — the devil — sitting, especially computer use. Sitting seems to be the devil.

      I will explain an easily understandable way in which sitting itself can contribute to what I consider largely an illusion of “fascia storing negative memories: If I sit and do computer work for 8 hours, during that time various muscles are engaged across the body in unusual ways which put pleats in the fascia. Particularly, these pleats form around major nerves — for example the thoracic nerve. So, fascia from engaged leg muscles can pleat around nerves in the abdomen. Now, these same stretches of fascia are supposed to move freely during breathing. The end result is that you can get up from a few hours of computer work and no longer be able to have the chest cavity expand (including the stomach area — the WHOLE upper body) because fascia involved in that process is now pleated around major nerves. In fact, breathing capacity is not only reduced, but actually now TUGS on those major nerves giving dysphoria. (This is also a major reason why meditating is now often much harder for modern people.) This dypshoria brought about by impeded breathing can trigger adrenal responses (which translate to compulsive negative thoughts — the left brain’s attempt to “solve” something physical it doesn’t really understand or have access to). In other words, the physical dysfunction and dysphoria plugs in like a data cable into the base areas of the brain, whenceforth negative emotions and memory flashes pour out like wine. It’s a mental interpretation of physical dysfunction and dysphoria. This can give the ILLUSION that “bad memories are stored in the fascia” — which is what the linked article is basically getting at. It can be explained more simply by physical dysfunction, in my opinion.

      So I am therefore not convinced that “memories” are particularly “stored” in the fascia as he suggests. HOWEVER I am open to that, also. Right now my intense focus is on being able to demonstrate the literal, tangible physical mechanical distortions caused by things like computer use and how they affect breathing and thus the mental-emotional landscape — and how to solve them with repeatable processes that can be learned and applied IMMEDIATELY after computer use and upon waking to break down and eliminate the dysfunction.

      I believe my way is a simpler way and does not require a model (like his) whereby memories are literally encoded in fascia (and, although I believe that MAY be possible, I believe it is possibly negligible compared to the frankly horrendous distortions that arise from straight mechanical-physical usage of the body, e.g. in computer use).

      By the way, meditation becomes basically instantaneously accessible and regenerative once a big part of these distortions is resolved. That’s mainly because the BREATHING is resumed. Mindfulness of breath is a centrepiece of practically all meditation for this reason.

      I also think that techniques like Rolfing (and Thomas Myer’s stuff, which is based on Rolfing) is kind of barbaric and is akin to chemotherapy being used for cancer — cure the disease by killing the patient (though it is nowhere near as bad as chemotherapy literally is). Once this stuff is better understood and people know how to cure themselves, Rolfing et al. will be seen as a dark age. Most importantly, Rolfing — done by a manual therapist who does not have access to the sensation-map of the patient’s body — is little more than a stab in the dark. It can also only really work on “large pleats” that the manual therapist can actually access via his fingertips, whereby to solve the accumulated small pleats — which are in my experience much worse for the patient — requires the body’s own corrective programmes, e.g. REM. Maybe tremors, too, but I will wait to receive Andrew’s techniques before judging whether they can do something that my mindful techniques don’t do better.

      Watch this space.

  15. rick says:

    any news about your discussion with Andrew Hutchinson? I am curious about the defnite technique

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