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The Power Of Visualization
« on: August 12, 2017, 09:50:32 PM »
Here's a youtube montage of Conor Mcgregor talking about the power of Visualization.

Feel free to post your own thoughts or interesting tid-bits about it here as well.

I enjoy this because in the sport of MMA (mixed martial arts) no one has done with Mcregor has done, and hes not some super powered yogi or shaman who delved to the center of the universe to unlock the secrets of reality...

He's just a mouthy Irish MMA fighter dude who was nearly a plumber instead of a superstar, and gives credit to his ability to visualization for his massive success.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3jwYzxnqv0



Even after it happened I could not believe that It would not have happened anyway. That's how strange this whole thing is.

- Neville Goddard

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Re: The Power Of Visualization
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2017, 01:54:21 AM »
Even after it happened I could not believe that It would not have happened anyway. That's how strange this whole thing is.

- Neville Goddard

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Re: The Power Of Visualization
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2017, 06:14:15 AM »
I've also been watching some Neville Goddards youtubes, I enjoy them. Simple and to the point, with a lot interesting biblical interpretations.

Here's one to get started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM-TknUV1X0
« Last Edit: October 25, 2017, 06:16:15 AM by wetwaterdrop »
Even after it happened I could not believe that It would not have happened anyway. That's how strange this whole thing is.

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Re: The Power Of Visualization
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2017, 05:21:37 PM »
http://www.mind-your-reality.com/support-files/the_master_key_system_haanel.pdf



This is one of the original "law of attraction" guys, Napoleon Hill, the author of think and grow rich, said the following about him:

 “I believe in giving credit where it is due, therefore I believe I ought to inform you that my present success and the success which has followed my work as President of the Napoleon Hill Institute is due largely to the principles laid down in The Master-Key System.”


I just started reading it but thought I'd share.
Even after it happened I could not believe that It would not have happened anyway. That's how strange this whole thing is.

- Neville Goddard

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Re: The Power Of Visualization
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2018, 06:07:15 AM »
Diving even further, Charles F Haanel was a student of Eugene Fersen.

http://www.rivendellvillage.org/Eugene_Fersen-Science_Of_Being.pdf
Even after it happened I could not believe that It would not have happened anyway. That's how strange this whole thing is.

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2018, 07:25:12 PM »
I really liked the simplicity of how Neville Goddard explains stuff and yet does not gloss over the subtleties of Manifestation(focussing on feeling etc). Thank you.

I have always showed Conor Mcgregor as an example to those who seem to believe that great intelligence or scholarship is needed to "understand" and effect these mind-over-matter tricks. It is only sincerity and ardency of heart that is required.

You may like this:

https://mysticjournal.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/models-of-magick-part-ii-what-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-each-model-of-magick/
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Re: The Power Of Visualization
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 08:38:30 PM »
I really liked the simplicity of how Neville Goddard explains stuff and yet does not gloss over the subtleties of Manifestation(focussing on feeling etc). Thank you.

I have not looked at any of the links but just wanted to throw this in there based on the above.

When I was winning thousands on the online slots, the one thing in common which made it happen every time -- so, the difference between it working and it not -- was the FEELING I generated while visualizing the win.

Luckily online slots usually play a "big win" sequence (coins flying out the screen, specific music playing, etc.) when you win beyond a certain threshold. I had the one from Bier Haus fairly well burned into my brain from previous wins, so while absorbed on the image of the reels I could then induce a mental replay of the "big win" sequence. The dopamine injection was tangible (meaning it literally felt like drugs squirting in my brain) and the "big win" sequence would play all by itself from start to finish with the music and everything. The kundalini stream would explode vertically up my spine during the "dopamine squirt" moment and would manifest as upward moving energy in my visual field -- a literal visual stream -- which would then morph into coins, gems, and fireworks. So, these were literal hallucinations, quite with an existence of their own. When I opened my eyes after this I would have afterimages of coins shooting out the screen, still playing in my visual field, along with other explosions of colour (typical "Arising & Passing Away" stuff) -- and even, a couple of times, hand tracers following my hands if I moved them in front of my eyes, just like LSD. These were my most powerful magickal moments and demonstrate quite how strong my concentration was at this time.

My point here, other than reliving a fond memory, is that the stronger you make the FEELING, the more magick will work -- and this is how magick actually happens IME. And you NEED to put the dopamine triggers into the visualization too (in the online slot case, the visuals and sounds coming from the computer plus the kind of deeper feeling of just being given loads of money, and the kind of "sick" inner delight that magick itself brings, the total wanton ecstatic masturbatory glee of creation).

Another example is when I used magick to get a specific girl into bed (no lectures on ethics, please). So for this there was a specific visualization I repeated over and over. It was me waking up in the morning and finding the naked figure of a sleeping woman, pale white skin, facing away from me, big perfect ass, and dark hair sweeping down her back. I made this visualization until it was beyond real, and imagined just moving my hand up and down the outside curve of her body, while also imagining the tactile sensations. I imagined this over and over and over until I could summon it into high fidelity at will, even hearing the birds singing in the morning of the imagined scene.

When it finally came true (which did not take long -- a few weeks at most), every detail of the scene was identical except one I could not possibly have known about -- the god-awful tramp stamp above her ass.

My point is, you want to generate LIFELIKE feelings of the thing happening, and the best way to do this is to add in all the DETAILS that trigger literal physiological responses.

You will hear people talk about generating visualizations or turning desires into sigils then "forgetting about them", and just expecting them to happen. This can work, sure. However, for the total magickal experience, the total feeling of power and knowledge that you are directly creating an effect, you need to do it my way. Make the visualization so replete with buzzing physiological sensations, nauseating pleasure, and bizarre altered states, that the event itself becomes "burned" into reality and destined to manifest. Then you don't even need to forget about it or any of that, it will just happen very, very soon.

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Re: The Power Of Visualization
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2018, 08:49:50 PM »
so, the difference between it working and it not -- was the FEELING I generated while visualizing the win.

I have always considered words like:confidence, one-pointedness, power etc as inaccurate descriptions of what really fuels magick. IMO it is how "Real" you feel about it that makes all the difference. The somatic-effects are what I emphasized in my Yoga Nidra+ post here.

Another example is when I used magick to get a specific girl into bed (no lectures on ethics, please).
I don't really consider it(or anything for that matter) unethical. That's just a word for social use. It's all a matter of what you consider to be your priority and going for it. It's basically a game of perception and how ready is one to go through the consequences. Lectures don't change anybody, nor am I really interested in changing people, enough work to do on myself.
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Re: The Power Of Visualization
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2018, 09:46:00 PM »
I have always considered words like:confidence, one-pointedness, power etc as inaccurate descriptions of what really fuels magick. IMO it is how "Real" you feel about it that makes all the difference.

Yes, and there is a level you can take it to whereby it's a forgone conclusion -- infinitely more powerful than "spray and pray" sigil magick of novice magicians.

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2018, 09:39:00 AM »
I would say "Realness" is the only thing to be generalized. As I always say: Inner-dimension stuff like magick and spirituality is very subjective and no way is the "highway" for all.
You seem to be a person who is naturally inclined to "self power" and have less issues with confidence in your mental power etc. However, an "other power" based magick can be just as powerful:
My dad has done a lot of intense sadhana of Saraswati( Hindu Muse: Goddess of Inspiration, wisdom: both spiritual and mundane, arts and learning) since childhood. He incidentally is also a person of tremendous self-faith.
One day, as a kid, I had an exam I could not prepare for due to sickness. I was extremely jittery about my situation while going to take the exam. My dad comforted me, but to no avail.
Just 5 minutes before the exam commenced at my school, I felt a sudden flow of "surety" in my being and my brain seemed extremely primed for any challenge. As soon as I opened the question paper, my brain was literally vomitting information relevant to the question I was reading at the moment. The improvement in cognitive function was not just limited to memory but also comprehension and logic(it was a chemistry exam, could not be cleared by rote alone).I could also write faster than I could usually muster.
As soon as I returned home, dad said: You must have felt something right before the exam. You were sincere, hence I did it, it won't be done trivially.
I was grateful for his gesture, thus did not argue. But I was caught up in the material-scientific left-brained world view so explained it away to myself as: I did read most of those school textbooks during the academic year and thus the info was already in my subconscious. In my moments of despair it might have all luckily surfaced.
Though 2 things could not fit in convincingly:
1. his surety about when I felt the effects and
2. I had fared worse in exams I had been much better prepared for(I scored quite respectable marks in this case).
However this is how the brain works: it edits out all fringe-stuff that does not neatly fits in its dominant model, so forgot about this incident for many years. This is just one of many such incidences like foretelling exactly what would happen during the last over of a cricket match, character of my classmates, deja vus, knowledge of a minor(sometimes major) event news about which was reported later in the day, all of which I ignored during my early years. And all these were usually without effort on his part, quite spontaneous. There is also a mantra involved in this, which he says he would give me only if he is satisfied with my worthiness.

There is also a swami of Paramhans Yogananda's order who wrote something to the effect: I always had very low self-confidence. Thus, surrender to God came easy to me and I learned to channel God's help in almost everything I do. And lo! I have managed to write so much, organize so much!.

There are devotees I have seen who can melt skeptics with just a glance. One yogi-cum-devotee had just touched me on my chest and I had a burst of love.

Many of them can change your entire persona by a single glance or touch. A medieval saint named Ramanujacharya, who was a devotee of Krishna saw a drunk young man chasing a beautiful prostitute. He called the man and just caressed his head and the man's body was filled with unbearable bliss and a vision of Krishna playing in a garden. After that, his obsession for women disappeared totally.

In modern times there was a aghori yogi Vimalananda, who, at an advanced age, could defeat sturdy young wrestlers at arms-wrestling by doing an "avesham"(evocation) of Hanuman(a deity known for qualities of sagacity, tremendous strength, humility, devotion and all siddhis), into his body.

You might have heard of the early 20th century Indian mathematician Srinivas Ramanujam. He hardly had any formal training in mathematics and yet wrote notebooks upon notebooks of equations(few proved wrong) which he claimed that his family goddess(Mahalakshmi of Namakkal) wrote to him in dreams. His colleagues at Cambridge describe something similar to a 3rd eye phenomenon when he used to close his eyes for inspiration. He famously said: "An equation for me has no meaning,unless it expresses a thought of God."Professor G.H. Hardy took him to Cambridge. Mathematicians in West are I think still pouring over his work. Some of his equations are quite apt mathematical models of blackhole(discovered much after his death I think):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan

There is also this consideration: it's good to tailor a model which is holistic i.e. without drawbacks. Totally self-power based models are liable to put you in conflict with the Universe and manifest ill karmic effects as long as you are identified with petty ego. They inherently limit you to your own ignorant conception of:
1. What you are capable of.
2. What's desirable.
Whereas totally other-power based models can lead to an insufficient assertion in personality and in a very twisted form: madness like sacrificing living beings to please deities(that has a truth, but also karma) and lack of a sense of responsibility. You also need to nurture a relationship overtime with the Other-Power.
Ofcourse, one can, by his own intelligence, not fall for the possible negatives of his model and can even use the magick through his model for overcoming the weaknesses of the model: Eg. Asking God for self-confidence.

Thus I have usually taken Vedanta as my model: This being is one of the infinite manifestations of That Being. He is Infinite and is infinite in each individual manifestation.
Whatever I think, that I can do, whatever I can conceive of, that I can become, because God dwells in me.

What you can work with with greatest sense of Realness, depends on your constitution. It just depends on where you place your faith and joy("self" or "other"). If a self-powered magick can have a gleeful sense of control, an other-powered magick can be laid-back, relaxed, effortless and spontaneous.
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Re: The Power Of Visualization
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2018, 03:45:10 AM »
"Vimalananda’s life document again and again how readily he overdid in his search for his Beloved. He really overdid things on the day he lost his temper with his penis for disturbing his sleep with its regular erections, and read it the riot act with the help of a thick layer of green chili paste. What a fiery lesson that was! Most people would think him as insane for trying such a stunt as he thought them insane for obsessing over everything except the One Thing in life that is worth obsessing over."
Even after it happened I could not believe that It would not have happened anyway. That's how strange this whole thing is.

- Neville Goddard

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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2018, 03:58:09 AM »
"his enthusiastic sex life served to drive all but the most persistent postulants from his unmarked door. He followed in this the ancient example of Guru Dattatreya, the first aghori, who in order to weed out through disgust those of his disciples who could not look beyond their guru’s outer ‘clothes’ took to drinking wine while a beautiful naked female sat atop his lap"

http://www.drsvoboda.com/resources/articles/divine-fury-recollections-of-a-renegade-guru/
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Re: The Power Of Visualization
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2018, 04:57:27 PM »
I am now working on revision, which has been having consistent positive results.


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experience convinces me that that moment that I have revised and relived will not recede into my past. It will advance into my future to confront me as I have revised it. If I do not revise it, these moments, because they never recede and they always advance, will advance to confront me perpetuating that strange, unlovely incident. But if I refuse to allow the sun to descend upon my wrath, so that at the end of a day I never accept as final the facts of the day, no matter how factual they are, I never accept them, and revising it I repeal the day and bring about corresponding changes in my outer world.


https://freeneville.com/free-neville-goddard-lectures-awakened-imagination-1954/
Even after it happened I could not believe that It would not have happened anyway. That's how strange this whole thing is.

- Neville Goddard

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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2018, 11:59:16 PM »
Chapter I
Before Abraham Was
Verily, verily, I say unto you before Abraham was, 1 AM. — John 8 : 58.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the
Word was God."
In the beginning was the unconditioned awareness of being;, and the un
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conditioned awareness of being became conditioned by imagining itself to
be something, and the unconditioned awareness of being became that
which it had imagined itself to be; so did creation begin.
By this law — first conceiving, then becoming that conceived — all things
evolve out of No-thing; and without this sequence there is not anything
made that is made.
Before Abraham or the world was — I AM. When all of time shall cease to
be — I AM. I AM the formless awareness of being conceiving myself to be
man. By my everlasting law of being I am compelled to be and to express
all that I believe myself to be.
I AM the eternal Nothingness containing within my formless self the ca
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pacity to be all things. I AM that in which all my conceptions of myself live
and move and have their being, and apart from which they are not.
I dwell within every conception of myself; from this withinness I ever seek
to transcend all conceptions of myself. By the very law of my being I tran
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scend my conceptions of myself, only as I believe myself to be that which
does transcend.
I AM the law of being and beside ME there is no law. I AM that I AM.


https://www.law-of-attraction-haven.com/support-files/your-faith-is-your-fortune-neville-goddard.pdf
Even after it happened I could not believe that It would not have happened anyway. That's how strange this whole thing is.

- Neville Goddard

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Even after it happened I could not believe that It would not have happened anyway. That's how strange this whole thing is.

- Neville Goddard