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Interview with Aaron Sleazy
« on: October 03, 2011, 01:56:14 PM »
This is the full, unedited version of the interview I did with Aaron Sleazy ( over the last year, which was finally finished when he came to visit me last month.

This interview will be featured in the forthcoming issue of Interesting Times Magazine (


A Sleazy Mind
Inside the mind of Aaron Sleazy, seducer and author – by Illuminatus

My name is Illuminatus. I am a meditation expert specializing in psychonautics – the exploration of altered states of consciousness and how they can be used to effect positive change in one’s reality. I write regularly about meditation and personal development on my website Personal Power Meditation (, and have recently released my first book, The End of Social Anxiety, which teaches people how to use straightforward meditative exercises to overcome social anxiety.

I became friends with Aaron Sleazy ( three years ago via the online newsgroup mASF, which at the time was the “hub” of the seduction community and had featured as the focal point of the events described in the book The Game by Neil Strauss (a.k.a. Style). Around this time, the seduction community was very much grounded in the paradigm established by Mystery and Style, the main pickup artists featured in The Game. Their methodology centres around entertaining women over long periods of time through “routines” (magic tricks, stories and silly games) in order to get them into bed. Mystery himself asserts that having sex with a woman takes, on average, seven hours from the moment you first start talking to her. This “ideal” of seducing women did not tally up with my own experience, as I had personally seduced women in much shorter times, and with far less effort than playing games and reciting made-up stories. Additionally, most of the “pickup guys” I had met in real life who had subscribed to mainstream seduction teachings had ended up becoming even more weird than when they had first started; learning “game” had only served to alienate them further from the women they were trying to seduce, and their results were generally poor as a consequence. As most seduction writers and marketers were continuing to peddle Mystery-Style methodology and its derivatives, there were few reliable resources available for the struggling seduction student to turn to.

This all changed when Aaron Sleazy came along. He disregarded most of the mainstream teachings of seduction and instead advocated a fast, physical, non-verbal style of seduction, which flew in the face of what was currently accepted truth in the seduction community. His results were outstanding, and he became an overnight sensation on mASF for his outlandish field reports which often involved him having sex with women in nightclubs within minutes of meeting them. He chronicled these adventures in his first book, Sleazy Stories.

Sleazy’s disillusionment with what he saw as borderline fraudulent activities by mainstream seduction instructors led him to become an outspoken critic of the seduction industry, which he attacked in his book Debunking the Seduction Community for teaching ineffective methods and financially exploiting desperate men. Sleazy thus became both a pariah to the old regime of mASF and a hero for a slew of men (including myself) who just wanted something that worked and which didn’t involve wearing a feather boa and constructing an artificial personality based on fantasy and half-lies in order to impress women.

Around this time, I made Sleazy my mentor, paying strict attention to his writings and exchanging emails with him regularly. As a meditation teacher, I became particularly interested in how Sleazy had used meditative methods to create the mindset of clarity and focus which he attributes much of his success to. Thus, instead of focusing on his adventures in seduction (which are already well-documented), in this interview I have chosen to focus on the mental basis of Aaron Sleazy: the man himself, and how he developed the psychological wherewithal to become a master seducer capable of flouting social norms and behaving on his own agenda at will – a feat most men only dream of.

Illuminatus: When I log on to a personal development forum, the majority of posts I see typically relate to some problem the individual is experiencing in his or her life. More often than not it is quite clear to me that the individual lacks insight relating to their part in 1) Creating the problem and 2) Helping it to persist. More importantly they lack perspective on the events that they consider to make up their “problem”. I've put problem in quotes because I really don't consider most of these things to be issues at all. I feel that I have a slight bird's eye view over the events in other people's lives, and that I generally think, “This would be so simple to solve if you just thought about it in this way.” I also know however, from experience, that I have these same blinders on to many of my own thought processes and emotional responses to events. I often end up being the guy asking for advice, although 90% of the time I am offering it.

Aaron Sleazy: This is an issue I could probably write a book about. I think the main issue is that people feel very uncomfortable changing their behavioural patterns. This seems to affect a majority of people, and it also ties into your idea that most people are more concerned about avoiding any kind of negative emotions, instead of actively seeking positive ones. It might even go as far as someone not even wanting to seek new experiences at all, resulting in a rather passive lifestyle. Doing something in a different way can of course lead to a feeling of anxiety, so people try to avoid it as far as they possibly can, unaware of the drawbacks of such an approach to life.

On a related note, I have recently come across an intriguing example in Steve Wozniak’s autobiography iWoz: Computer Geek to Cult Icon. In one of the chapters he describes his time working as an engineer at Hewlett-Packard. One fine day, a new kind of calculator got introduced at the company, but the engineers seemed to almost feel offended by it. While the then-common calculators required you to enter equations in so-called Reverse Polish notation, the new ones were just like our modern ones, where you key in the term from left to right in the so-called infix notation. The underlying issue was that the engineers had spent so much time learning and perfecting their old method that they stubbornly clung to it, even though a novice with a new calculator ran circles around their elaborate but now outdated method. This is an illuminating example, as it shows that no matter how educated or intelligent someone is, attributes you would doubtlessly use for people designing computer chips, they might very well follow the same ridiculous patterns as most other human beings.

Likewise, the bulk of people on self-help forums seem to exhibit the same pattern. In fact, they might even know what their problem is. Let’s consider dieting, which is not exactly rocket science, as it boils down to eating healthily and exercising if you want to lose weight. I know that there can be other issues, like a thyroid malfunction, but the number of fat people certainly outweighs that group by a factor of several hundred. So, if your doctor can’t find any issue with your thyroid, you just might have to hit the gym more than once a year. This is an obvious fact. Yet, there is a weight loss industry that is worth billions. It is addressing people who claim to want to fix a problem, but secretly they don’t, because they have become too accustomed to a leisurely lifestyle full of little guilty pleasures. Of course, having killer legs would be great, but, man, would Jane Potbelly miss those buckets full of juicy chicken wings at KFC! Due to that kind of reasoning, the question such people really ask is, “How can I change X — without having to change at all?”

Unfortunately those people forget to mention the part after the dash, and this is precisely where the prevalent magic pill mentality comes from. Instead of working on the obvious, people crave for a shortcut that would allow themselves not to change. What our lovely little Jane Potbelly wants is of course an impossibility. Her capacity for logical thinking doesn’t seem to be much developed, though, so she asks herself, “How can I keep consuming shitty food, hardly ever move, yet look at least as hot as Gabriella Fox?” This doesn’t quite work, no matter how much she wishes for it. However, the moment an ad for some absurd fitness device comes up on the TV screen, she considers buying it.

Illuminatus: I've known you online for several years now, and I've never seen you ask for help on anything.

Aaron Sleazy: Well, I am sure I occasionally ask for suggestions if I think I could benefit from an outside perspective, but this is far from the kind of guy or girl who reveals very little information about themselves, yet expects people to magically read their mind and provide them with a solution that immediately solves all their problems.

Illuminatus: How do you view events in your life in anticipation of them happening, as they unfold, and afterwards in reflection?

Aaron Sleazy: I do live almost completely in the present. Of course, I am aware of deadlines and I structure my tasks accordingly, but I feel no anxiety about it. I prepare as best as I can or am willing to, and that’s it. This doesn’t mean that I excel at everything I do (far from it), but why should I make things more difficult for myself? Even when my activities are much more connected with enjoyment, such as going on a vacation, I don’t obsess over it for weeks either. Of course, the date of the flight is marked in my calendar, and I will certainly make sure to arrive at the airport on time, but it’s not that I am counting the days or have to put up pictures of the destination on the fridge as a way of escaping reality. Once the day arrives, I board the plane, and I have no fixed ideas of what I expect to happen, besides the bleeding obvious.

On the other hand, many people seem to build up an awful lot of anticipation about literally everything, and then they easily get disappointed when things are not as pleasant as they imagined them to be. For example, look at the myriad of women who mistakenly believe that they can literally buy happiness. Sure, a new dress and a pair of sexy high-heels may be nice, but after some days this stuff will just look as old and unappealing to them as the other eight dozen dresses and 120 pairs of shoes in their wardrobe. This is simply a result of their bizarre world view, and unfortunately many don’t seem to be able to think objectively about their shopping patterns.

Illuminatus: Where do you think whatever world view you have on the events in your life comes from, and how do you think it affects how you process the world and how you live your life on a day-to-day basis?

Aaron Sleazy: Well, one of the biggest boons, but quite possibly also the greatest curse of my life, was that I had intellectually matured rather quickly. Even in primary school I found myself in situations where I managed to irritate some of my teachers because I could do some tasks quicker than they could. There were instances of some teachers who were doing the mathematics quizzes as we were working on them as well, probably to check whether we would have enough time according to their opinion. But of course, little Aaron Sleazy wasn’t quite greeted with enthusiasm for handing in his work before they were done with their trial run. However, I was just an innocent little boy who wanted to do well in school, and not some smart alec that was out to prove his superiority. I remember quite a few such conflicts with my teachers, and while the few male ones were glad that there was such a bright kid in the class, the female ones were usually not that pleased. So, in my early childhood the seeds for both my disrespect for authority as well as quite possibly a slightly misogynistic streak were planted.

The big picture is equally unflattering because the problem of unquestioned authority pervades all our life. Even, or maybe I should say, especially, in universities, the level of groupthink is unbelievable. The humanities are notorious for it, but the situation isn’t much better in, say, economics, which might even be worse than other social sciences. The methodology in those fields is just highly questionable, and I do wholeheartedly agree with Richard Feynman who famously said that all those “experts” are merely making things up and don’t even dare to properly test their hypotheses. You surely know about Robin Baker’s book Sperm Wars, which was entirely built upon the hypothesis that there are killer sperm cells whose only purpose is, well, killing other sperm cells. This is of course extremely useful in the likely event that you find yourself inseminating a cheerleader right after an entire NFL team had been with her. Baker, though, despite being a reproductive biologist, never bothered to check whether his outlandish hypothesis would survive an experiment. Probably he was too pleased with the whole edifice he built in his head, and of course who would want to make science interfere with the appeal of fiction? Well, about a decade after Baker had written his book, some other reproductive biologists dared to actually mix sperm cells from a number of donors together, and what did they find out? — that Baker’s idea was completely bogus. By the way, the academic journal Science did report those findings in 1999. Nonetheless, Baker’s bullshit hypothesis featured prominently in the work of some other writer in need of anything that made his absurd fantasies more appealing, namely in Neil Strauss’s The Game. One wonders why he didn’t bother to do some proper research.

Generally, the realisation that people often don’t really know what they are talking about made me very wary of any kind of advice, especially if it is presented as allegedly impartial information. For some reason, the printed word instils quite some respect, but this is just another example of propaganda. However, you surely don’t need to read Noam Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent to become critical of the messages spread in the mass media. Just compare what your politicians say with your experience of the world, and the scales will fall from your eyes. Why would they lie to you, you may ask — after all, your vote has put them into office, hasn’t it? Economic events of the past two to three years are an excellent case in point. The US government, for instance, is busy proclaiming an economic recovery. Yet, at the same time as a recovery is being pronounced, the number of people receiving food stamps is skyrocketing. The last time I checked the numbers, it was 46 million people. So, why do you still blindly believe anything they tell you?

However, I don’t think that the people lying to us are all idiots and imbeciles, despite compelling evidence to the contrary. They are simply ruthlessly following their own agenda, and they might very well believe their own lies, not unlike Orwellian “doublethink.” As a consequence, I do find some amusement in the events that are taking place, even though the world resembles a tragicomedy, such as what is happening in the US and Europe right now, when the bill for the fraudulent actions of the banking industry is now footed by the public sector, and especially the poor and unborn generations. Thus, it's no surprise that politicians and businessmen don't dare to show themselves in public without bodyguards any more.

But how does this affect me? First, I am relatively critical of everything I read, which is also why you perceive me as someone who doesn’t ask for advice. I’d rather make up my own mind, especially given the excessive level of deception in the world, and even though it might sometimes take longer to find a solution to a problem, it’s important for me to find my own solution. This will give me a sound reason for my actions instead of just regurgitating somebody else’s views. At times, it has made my life much more difficult, but at others, I have immensely benefited from it. Most importantly, though, this stance literally forces me to keep an open mind, which goes back to your initial observation about people asking about how they could change. It’s often not that they can’t imagine a way out – it’s that they don’t want to because they have allowed themselves to be conditioned to falling for empty promises and not thinking for themselves. Again, think of the weight-loss industry, which perfectly shows that instead of questioning their nutritional behaviours and lifestyle, people prefer to be lied to and believe that some “gimmick” will finally enable them to reach their goals — of course with no effort at all.

Illuminatus: Regarding living in the present moment. I think there are two scales for this, both of which are intimately linked: short-term, where you are actually just walking around interacting with the environment in the moment and not trapped inside your own head; and long-term, regarding planning, where you are deciding “I’ll just do this” and doing it, and not thinking about things in the future too much. For example, I’ve just moved to a completely different city on a whim. And people are asking me, “What are you going to do?!” The idea of moving is kind of like an uprooting to them, and needs to take on all these contingencies which require feverish thought and panic. This is the same as what you were saying about deciding to go on holiday then not even thinking about it till the day arrives — we both seem to understand that, beyond the most basic planning, 99% of thought about a matter is absolute conjecture and is therefore worthless, and also builds false expectations, so we’ve stopped doing it. Bearing this in mind, I wanted to ask you how you arrived at the position where present-moment living became your dominant way of life, both in the short term of everyday activities and in the long term of not thinking about the future too much. How, and why, did you start thinking and operating like this, and are there any processes you went through, or still continue to do electively, to keep your mind in the present moment?

Aaron Sleazy: A key moment was when I discovered Zen meditation at the age of 16. In my youth I was a voracious reader, and after going through some books on Eastern philosophy, it didn’t take long until I discovered a book I quite honestly consider somewhat hackneyed and trite in hindsight. It was Eugen Herrigel’s Zen in the Art of Archery. There is some controversy about both the book and its author, but this would go too far off track to go into now. However, you can learn even from bad books. My key insight from this one was that mastery requires not just technical skills, but also mental ones, which was described as the ability to not let your mind interfere with your actions. I was aware that the book was not to be taken literally, but this idea nonetheless struck a chord with me.

The next resource I came across was a documentary on a Japanese Zen temple. It showed little more than meditating monks and their surroundings. Of course, I didn’t have the intention of devoting my life to meditation, but I wanted to experience the effects I had read about myself. It turned out that this was all I needed to start out. From then on, I made it a habit to meditate daily. At first, the lotus position required some practice, but it turned out that sitting in the lotus for five minutes was a minor problem compared to controlling my meandering thoughts.

You may now wonder what the big deal is. Well, the problem is that in our culture there is constant noise and a plethora of distractions. It is not uncommon for people to have the TV on while browsing the Internet, listening to music on the computer, and maybe even calling up some of their friends. This scenario might be over the top, but the need to not be left alone with your thoughts pervades our society. What do you do when you get up? You automatically turn on the radio. After breakfast, you grab your iPod and listen to some music on the way to work, maybe even as you get your daily dose of propaganda from your “reliable” mainstream newspaper on public transport. On your desk, there will be the radio again, a myriad of pointless emails, and blathering colleagues of both genders. Once you are back home, you switch on the TV to “unwind”. There are people that can’t even have dinner without having the radio or TV on in the background, and I’m not talking about “white trash” here.

So, dear reader, is your TV running in the background? If that’s the case, then get up and switch it off! Maybe you won’t even have a problem with that, but this simple step is next to impossible for people who are used to if not outright dependent on it. Heck, I have been with some girls who had the bizarre habit of always keeping the TV on in their apartments, even when they weren’t watching, and it was amazing to notice how quickly they got nervous when I suddenly turned it off. Somehow I got the impression that they were feeling like addicts going cold turkey.

Those observations are relevant to meditation, because the ability to endure silence will eventually lead to a much greater mental clarity. I quickly acquired the skill of just calming myself down through meditation, but after some years I mastered the ability to literally switch off my thoughts at will. Let’s just get back to the vacation example previously mentioned. If it is your normal state to have a myriad of disconnected thoughts and baseless concerns in your head, you worry about the most inane things. On the other hand, for people like you and me, we simply book the flight and that’s it. There is no need for unnecessary thoughts about what might happen in the future. Also, while we are on a vacation, we are also much more likely to enjoy ourselves, while other people might already start to worry about some unfinished tasks at their office desk.

Likewise, you mentioned that you recently moved to a different city on a whim. I have done the same a couple of times in my life as well, and the experience that I could just pack my stuff and rebuild my life in a different place was more than liberating. There’s a great relevant quote in the movie Fight Club: “If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?” Well, of course you could. However, if you try to discuss this idea with other people, they more often than not seem threatened by the thought that you could easily just go away. Quite often, though, they are not satisfied with their lives and would like to move, too, but they are too worried about — nothing at all. Their biggest concern is probably that they might miss their favourite TV show once or twice.

You were also asking about my current meditation habits. I’ve been practising meditation for literally half my life now, and I used to meditate daily for years. The humble beginnings consisted in five-minute sessions, but in my early twenties, already having half a decade of practice under my belt, I regularly sat for one hour. These days, I meditate much less often, because after I learnt how to control my thoughts at will, I had less of a need for it. Nowadays, I can even enter this meditative state in a noisy environment, without following the rituals I used to adhere to.

Illuminatus: Let’s talk some more about this ability of yours to turn off your thoughts at will. I want to know everything about it you can possibly tell me. How do you do it? Also, what are the effects or identifying markers in each of your sensory representations and also in the thinking mind? For example, when meditating I will have disturbances in my visual field which eventually settle down and give way to white light which looks and feels like a clear, shimmering lake. I want to know everything about your particular experience of your no-thought state: when you first developed it, how you developed it, what the “a-ha!” moments were, and how you use it now.

Aaron Sleazy: I developed the “no-thought state” in my meditations. After a year or two of constant practice, I reached a point where I only had to sit down and assume the lotus position to clear my mind. The effect was almost immediate. However, it took me many more years to be able to do this in other contexts, but this was probably only due to me not trying it earlier, because I associated the act of clearing my mind too strongly with the actual ritual of meditation, which prevented me from experimenting with this state.

It was only due to mere chance that I stumbled upon using meditative techniques in my daily life. The first conscious occurrence was when I was sitting on a London bus one night in 2008. I was on the way to a club, but it was rather early. Consequently, I was the only person on the upper deck. Because I was a bit sleepy, the auditory impressions, mostly traffic noise and the sound of the bus engine, began to blend into each other. I am sure you are familiar with this from your own meditative practice. At first, you focus on certain sounds, may it be outside traffic noise, birds singing, or your neighbour playing the piano. But after a while, you don’t pay attention to it any more. The noise is of course still there. Yet, it somehow can’t reach you any more. To put it metaphorically, it goes right through you without affecting you. At other times, it may feel as if it goes around you. Yet, you are still present enough so that you could quickly focus on one particular auditory impression if you wanted to. Of course, this state only occurs in the early phase of the meditation, and there are further stages in which you cannot focus on anything but instead feel as if you are “blending” with the environment and lose awareness of your bodily sensations.

Let me explain this in more detail: While you normally perceive your body to be a vessel under the control of your mind, this particular state feels as if your mind expands and “bleeds” into your surroundings. As you stop thinking, you also somewhat lose your perception of the boundaries of your body. You don't even feel as if you are wearing clothes any more because you don't notice their weight. From there on it's just a short step to having synaesthetic experiences, which you can of course reach via many ways. I had a few experiences where I felt to “be” a certain colour, and some other times when I was not meditating but having sex instead, the boundaries of my “vessel” would mix with the boundaries of the other person in my perception. It was as if I would dip into her “vessel”, and it was an interaction not with the boundaries of her body, but more with the aura surrounding it. Of course, this language is somewhat metaphorical because synaesthetic experiences are very difficult if not impossible to describe with words. On the other hand, this is a topic I hardly ever talk about, so maybe I’ll be able to express myself clearly if you ask me again in a couple of years. Also, I’m fully aware that those descriptions may sound rather odd to the uninitiated. It’s thus not unlike trying to describe sex to a virgin. However, those experiences are certainly not unique. Meditation is just one way of reaching them. After all, drug usage with the aim of having similar experiences is not that uncommon.

Illuminatus: Could you tell me more about the practice of clearing your mind through meditation, and how you can stay in this state for a prolonged period of time, even while you are doing other things?

Aaron Sleazy: Let’s go back to that particular bus ride: I slipped into this early mind-clearing state of meditation somewhat by accident, and it was probably more triggered by the surroundings than by any conscious action done by myself. It was a rather odd feeling because my mind attained a state of simply letting things pass through. Yet, on a subconscious level I still paid attention to what was happening. Otherwise, I surely would have missed my stop. Even more interesting was that I managed to maintain this mental state even in the nightclub. I have written about this experience before, and called it “God Mode”, in a nod to a particular cheat code in first-person shooters by ID Software that makes you invincible.

I’d had my fair share of success with women before, but after that key moment nothing was ever the same. “God Mode” meant that I could do no wrong, and while I couldn’t enter this mental state reliably at will, and I still can’t, it happened often enough. The effects were that I became fully aware of the reactions of other people, however minute, and I could literally see not only whether women were interested in me, but also how strong their level of interest was. Furthermore, because I was just letting the visual and auditory impressions pass through me without trying to analyse them, and just acted on my impulses without censoring my thoughts, I had literally one amazing interaction after another. I won’t go into detail, because I have documented those adventures ad nauseam in other places, such as on my old blog and in some chapters of my book Sleazy Stories.

It’s also interesting to discuss how flicking this mental switch affects my physiology, which is something that was pointed out to me by a friend from Australia, another well-known seducer and author known as Cosy or TheCostOfSuccess, who was staying at my place in Berlin for about a month in 2009. We had been exchanging experiences, and I detailed the effects of my meditative practice. What was interesting was that he could tell when I was entering that particular mental state, in a club or elsewhere, because, according to him, my facial features softened and my eyes lost focus for a very brief moment.

It is probably no surprise that Cosy is a very experienced practitioner of various martial arts, holding two or three black belts. I have a few years of experience myself, and I have been instructed by some people who had a similar ability of clearing their mind and following instinctive patterns of reaction. The most intriguing example was by a master of Aikido. Of course, you can say whatever you want about the effectiveness or lack thereof of this particular martial art in real-life contexts, but that’s not the point. It might not teach you how to defend yourself against some particular techniques, but it teaches you an almost uncanny awareness of equilibrioception. After many months of practice, I started to become aware how even small movements affected my balance.

When practising with this Aikido master, he would at one point during the execution of the move close his eyes. At first I was baffled, but after watching him countless times, and practising with him frequently, I figured out what this was about: He “knew” or felt at which point I could not stop my attack any more, which was when he blocked visual input by closing his eyes. It was then when he executed his move. It’s obviously a matter of a split-second, and if you don’t believe me, you can try for yourself to just stand upright and make any kind of aggressive swing. It’s obvious that your level of control diminishes the farther along you are in the execution, which is what the highly stylised Aikido techniques exploit. There is a “tipping point” at which you start losing your balance, and can’t control your violent swing any more. This means that you have become vulnerable. Of course there is a small margin of error, but that master was able to close his eyes at seemingly the exact moment his opponent’s position was compromised, and execute his counter-move.

The previous example is interesting because that master’s behaviour gives you a clue about what he is doing, but surely there are people out there who can let the visual impression pass through them instead of closing their eyes, and execute their techniques perfectly regardless. Either way, it probably doesn’t matter how you do it, but those examples show that it is not entirely uncommon that people “switch” to a level at which they let their unconsciousness take over. Meditation is just one of many available paths.

Illuminatus: I have experienced some great mental states in my life — very similar if not the same as your “God Mode” — but there is a lack of consistency in getting it when I want. I do not know what the process behind getting it consistently is. This is one thing I am really trying to get from you in this interview: the processes behind God Mode.

Aaron Sleazy: I think there are many ways to reach “God Mode”. Has it ever happened that you were a bit sleepy or a bit hungry and went out nonetheless? This can lead to a somewhat similar mental state too because your body is then concerned with meeting some more primal needs. In turn, this means that you can’t fully focus, and, more importantly, you don’t even have the energy to entertain many distracting thoughts in your head. Admittedly, this is very different from the mental clarity you can reach through meditation, but there are many similarities nonetheless. Further, I do not drink nor do I take drugs, but it is my understanding that a state of mild intoxication has a similar effect of putting you more in touch with your instincts. Meditation is just another way to help you connect with your animalistic side. As I was hinting at before, I am not necessarily talking about the effects of prolonged meditation. The particular mental state I am referring to is one you can, with some practice, enter right away once you have gained the ability to clear your mind at will. You just shut off your thoughts, and then your instincts take over.

I’m not exactly sure what you mean by speaking of the “processes behind God mode”, but there is a change in my physiological perception. When I just look around, I have the very distinct feeling of a mind sitting in my body. I may feel where the skin is stretching, and where the muscles move, but once I pass that particular threshold, the impression is as if your mind extends to engulf your whole body. I’m sure for someone who hasn’t had a somewhat related sensation, this all sounds nonsensical, but the physical impression is indeed as if you are less in control, or, better: that you control yourself less and simply let your body act on a subconscious level. I’m sure this is something people who are heavily into sports are familiar with too. It is a switch from analysing to acting. You become your instincts, so to speak.

The challenge, though, is to maintain this early meditative state. Of course, you lose it once your mind starts taking over, and in this regard it is similar to lucid dreaming. There is a fine line between changing your dream, and influencing too many of its aspects, which will then end it. I had experiences where I actually woke up because I tried to change too many aspects of my dream episode, and the next thing I knew I was fully awake. It’s the same with God Mode. This means that there is a twofold challenge: to enter it, and to maintain it. However, if you manage to do this for a prolonged period of time, you are in for one hell of a ride.

Illuminatus: You’ve written two books already, Sleazy Stories and Debunking the Seduction Community, both of which I enjoyed immensely. In addition, you have translated Sleazy Stories into German. You are currently working on another book. Can you tell us a bit about it?

Aaron Sleazy: Of course. I’m currently in the final stages of writing a book on the basics of seduction. I can’t give you a release date yet, but it will be announced on my blog in due time. The initial idea was to provide a guide that allows guys to recognize their strengths and maximize their success with women. Of course, many books have been written on seduction or “game”, but if you open them, you notice that the content is presented in such an absurdly complicated way that it makes you wonder whether the guy even understands what he has written or whether he’s just making it up. A further omission is that those people present a plethora of “advanced theories” of doubtful merit, while completely disregarding some very basic aspects, which will of course come back and haunt you over and over again. On the other hand, given how the “seduction industry” works, this is probably just part of their business model, because they hope it’ll lead to return customers.

In my forthcoming book, I’ll thus develop a simple and concise framework, which is presented in very clear language. I’ll show you how to identify your strengths, how to effectively meet women, and how to transition this into the kind of relationship you want. The promise of the book is not to turn you into a second Don Juan, as this is, once you leave the realm of fantasy, outside the interest and ability of many men anyway. Heck, in most places on this planet you’ll have a hard enough time just finding a number of available attractive women. Instead, I want to show you how you can, in your particular situation and with your individual strengths and weaknesses, enjoy a respectable level of success with women and have a fulfilling love life, which is an eminently more achievable and satisfying goal for most men than becoming the cartoon ideal of a “pickup artist” advocated by the mainstream seduction industry.


Illuminatus’s writings on meditation and personal development, including his book The End of Social Anxiety, can be found at

Aaron Sleazy’s writings on seduction can be followed on his website at


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Re: Interview with Aaron Sleazy
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2011, 02:13:10 AM »
This is a great interview, you absolutely asked the questions I would like answered if I were to sit down with such a fascinating man. Congrats to you both. 


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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2011, 05:41:49 AM »
Agreed. Excellent read.

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