Basic Concentration Meditation

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  1. Dwayne says:

    Great article!

    I actually started doing basic breath meditation after finding it on your site way back in 2011. It took me about 8 months or so until I had a “breakthrough”. Around that point, it felt as if I could intuit people’s vibes based on talking to them and pretty much read them, gather their motivations etc. The next few months that followed were pretty awesome haha. It literally clicked after one meditation session. Like you said I was meditating around 30 min or so.

    Somewhere along the way all that subsided. I would note that I did LSD around this time – give or take a few months or so – and had a bad trip. I spent about the next 1-2 yrs pretty much fundamentally questioning my identity, trying to figure out what kind of a person I am, my characteristics/qualities. Pretty much questioning the meaning of life..as in what’s the point of any of this? I’m pretty sure I’ve past the bottom of that, but I’m nowhere near as daring/impulsive/confident as I used to be. I’m curious to know whether this meshes with your experience of arising/passing and the dark night.

    Either way, I need to practice more often, so thanks for putting this up!

    • Illuminatus says:

      Yep that closely matches my experience. I took MDMA for the first time around the time I started meditating (2008-09). I crossed the Arising & Passing quite blatantly around that time. I had “seeing the Matrix” moments practically every day and had insane psychic/intention-manifestation experiences on a weekly basis during that year. Ingram’s description of the A&P is bang-on: http://www.dharmaoverground.org/dharma-wiki/-/wiki/Main/MCTB+4.+The+Arising+and+Passing+Away/en

      The Dark Night that followed lasted years, and I’m only really just coming out of it now.

      Some drugs, particularly LSD, are well known for causing people to cross the A&P prematurely. I think there are lots of people out there who qualify for Dark Night having crossed A&P via drugs or some unguided meditation practice.

  2. Dwayne says:

    Are comments on working on this? Coulda sworn that I typed one up earlier..

    • Illuminatus says:

      Comments are moderated. If you attach your email address or Open ID, once one is approved they all automatically are approved. :)

  3. Moranta says:

    I have a question : How do you make the difference between letting go of a thought and suppressing it ?

    I’ve been trying this meditation for 2 weeks now. But as for each time I tried meditation, I’ve been wondering if I was just letting go of the thought or suppressing it whenever I come back to my kasina.

    • Illuminatus says:

      Concentration is concentration. Both suppressing and letting go of thoughts are valid actions for concentrating. Concentrate!

      In reality you will mainly be suppressing thoughts to begin with until you create a “concentration pathway” at which point you will find thoughts falling away at the side.

      Good luck! :)

      • Moranta says:

        Thanks for the reply.

        I have another question. I do This meditation with a solid object. And I’ve been wondering about the role of my eyes. Maybe I’m Just sweating over the small stuffs. But should my eyes daty immobile, fixing one part of the object, then widening my field of attention on the object or should I let them scruting the object.
        I naturally let them move, and I’ve noticed That I keep seeing things with more and more details in it

        • Illuminatus says:

          The eyes will do various things depending upon what’s going on. Don’t sweat it.

          In fact, worrying about the eyes shows you are not concentrating. Simply return your attention to the object. :) You will find you go through annoying cycles of self-doubt and distraction while practising concentration, before finally arriving at absorption. And then you might realize you’re absorbed, and have distracting thoughts about that! It’s normal. Just keep returning your attention to the object.

          But I also have some more practical advice: get into a “rhythm” of concentration. So, imagine your concentration has a gentle flowing “back and forth” feel to it. I talked about that in this guide in the section “Things Which Help Rapture”. Your eyes will take care of themselves when done like that.

          Here is what MCTB (p139) says about getting into a flow:

          “Tune into the illusory smoothness of things by purposefully and
          calmly working with illusions of solidity or fluidity. There is a certain
          “into it” quality which helps, sort of like really getting into a slow groove
          when playing an instrument, having sex, playing a sport, or just sinking
          into a well-deserved and warm bubble bath. Being in a silent and safe
          place is very helpful, as is giving yourself permission to relax, put the
          cares of the world behind you, and enjoy.
          If you are using the breath as an object, you might try purposefully
          visualizing it as sweet, smooth waves or circles that are peaceful and
          welcome. Try breathing as if you were in a garden of fragrant roses and
          you wish to experience the fullness of their fragrance. Perhaps these tips
          will help illustrate the kind of non-resistant and peaceful presence that
          can help one attain these states. Tune into sensations in and around the
          primary object that feel good.”

          I will also add that, when in deep absorption, things like worrying about the eyes (or anything else) simply doesn’t happen. There is no way to “deal with it” because it just doesn’t happen. An example from last night: I was practising my iPhone kasina (http://www.personalpowermeditation.com/iphone-flashlight-afterimage-kasina/). I went through the usual worrying about my eyes, blah blah blah, when suddenly I noticed that the afterimage of the light looked like a little galaxy. Zooming in, I found it was made of millions of stars. Obviously I was not worrying about my eyes and so forth at that point.

          All in all, don’t sweat it. Just return your attention to the object.

          • Moranta says:

            I kinda knew that I was worrying for nothing, but I needed to got it confirm :p

            “You will find you go through annoying cycles of self-doubt and distraction while practising concentration, before finally arriving at absorption. And then you might realize you’re absorbed, and have distracting thoughts about that! It’s normal. Just keep returning your attention to the object.”

            Yeah, I can totally relate to that, each time that I feel that I’m being absorbed, There is always a thought that say “yeah I did it” or else and I’m like “damn”. Haha

            I’ll try the flow thing, even if I’ve got trouble to really understand it.

            Thank you again. :)

  4. Vick says:

    “Getting into a flow, or rhythm. Okay, this is difficult to explain. You will find that your attention wants to move off the object in an actual predictable rhythm”

    Thank you!
    I noticed that after I focus my attention my mind becomes foggy and it slowly starts to drift until an alluring thought pops up and next thing I know I’m lost in thought. Refocusing in a rhythm on the fogginess and drifting mind almost eliminates it completely.

  5. JPSartre says:

    “I would get a strong feeling of falling (I now believe this is just all muscles relaxing simultaneously).”

    I would begin to get this feeling too, get scared, and then stop. I couldn’t handle not being in story mode. Just go with the flow?

  6. Moranta says:

    I’ve been having headaches after some sessions. I was not sure if it was really correlated but I’ve just got out of a sitting and I’m starting to have an headache. What can I be doing wrong ? Am I trying to concentrate too hard ? Putting too much effort ?

    • Illuminatus says:

      Might be eye-strain. If you are using a physical object, try not to “stare” at it and instead “gaze”. Any time you feel tension in the eye muscles, consciously relax that tension. Try putting the object farther away if you have to tense your eye muscles to keep it in focus.

      If none of that works, try using the breath as your object with eyes closed, rather than a physical object.

      I have read many reports about concentration meditation by people on meditation forums, and some of them say they experience a “pressure” sensation in their forehead (third eye area) while concentrating. I do not experience this however, and do not believe pain should be involved in concentration meditation. Pain is almost always caused by a muscle being tensed for a long period, and you should train yourself to notice that tension and consciously relax it.

      • Moranta says:

        ” and some of them say they experience a “pressure” sensation in their forehead (third eye area) while concentrating.”

        That’s exactly it !

        I think you might have spot the right problem.

        Thank you :)

  7. Nick says:

    Thank you so much for writing this article. I’ve only been practicing for three weeks, and I’ve already experienced the benefits. I’m calmer,less anxious and I seem to be working faster! Looking forward to more of your writings.

    • Illuminatus says:

      That’s awesome, Nick. Nice work, and thanks for the feedback. :)

      It just struck me that one of the reasons we’re seeing so many newcomers make rapid positive progress might be that we are working directly against some of the scatter-brain conditioning of social media, TV, and other recent phenomena. In this sense, concentration meditation is helping us come back up from quite a significant negative — by restoring one’s ability to simply focus on one thing at a time, and also to be alone without constant intrusion upon one’s experience. No wonder people are feeling better since starting to practise.

      I won’t go ultra-conservative and declare such technology and social change to be evil — they are simply causal. But they bring a whole host of maladies, and rising interest in “antidotes” like this method is to be expected.

  8. Daniel says:

    Hey Illuminatus, how long would you say I have to be able to concentrate on my object before I’ve “achieved access concentration”? I can easily concentrate on anything for several seconds but then I can find myself off daydreaming, where I totally forget that I’m meditating again! (I’m just taking up meditation again after a few years off, if that helps.) Thanks a lot for your excellent work.

    • Illuminatus says:

      Hi Daniel,

      As a very general rule I would say you need two factors present for it to qualify as access concentration: 1) A sense of “lock” on the objrect. 2) A pleasant sensation.

      For example, at my level I can glance at an object, hold it in “lock” for just a second, and feel a pleasant sensation. Then I concentrate on both the object and the pleasant sensation simultaneously, and this is how you build “absorption” — so it literally feels like you are “feeling” the object inside you, hence the name absorption.

      At your level, I would recommend mainly looking out for this pleasant sensation, or even just some subtle change in perception or awareness. Start to notice these things and let them grow and develop, and that’s going to be the key to developing concentration/absorption. You can develop it quite quickly if you know to look for these things, which is a main reason I wrote this guide as its aim is to teach this fantastic skill in the most straightforward way possible.

      Hope this helps.

      Edd

  9. Pat says:

    Hey, last night when practicing concentration meditation my ability to become absorbed in the breath seemed to increase suddenly. After I stopped meditating, I was in this remarkable bliss state where I was totally relaxed, to the point where I was too relaxed to do anything. Is this a bliss state?

    • Illuminatus says:

      After your posture work, which frees up muscles, your ability to create spaciousness in the jhana will suddenly increase. Did your meditation seem more spacious? I don’t want to put words in your mouth; this is just my experience.

      And yes that’s a kind of bliss state. If you are blissful, it’s a bliss state. You can also get bliss while walking around and doing things following such deep jhanas as they leave their mark for some time afterwards.

      • Pat says:

        I really didnt do all that much posture work, yet it seems to have made a difference. I was gonna comment on the posture article that I only really tried the arm one and then tried the hip flexors like you suggested in the comments, and feel a change. To be honest, I was skeptical about the posture method before I tried it, as it seemed way too simple. I thought I had simply been concentrating better last night, but the fact that it was such a sudden change makes me think it had something to do with the posture work.

  10. James says:

    Will you always go through the Jhana states in order?

    • Illuminatus says:

      I haven’t been able to “skip” jhanas — but I haven’t tried that hard. I can get to 4th jhana extremely quickly, but I clearly go through 1st, 2nd and 3rd in rapid succession.

      Also, they are stacked fractally. So, in getting to a deep 1st jhana, a progression through 1 to 4 can be witnessed in that, if one pays attention carefully. My description of “what happens”, visually, is as follows:

      “Lock” (1st)
      “With” (2nd)
      “Periphery” (3rd)
      “Fill” (4th)

      I use a combination of the dark stuff I see when I close my eyes, and the breath, as my object. Perceptually it’s like using “nothing” as the object (I matured past having to use actual objects some time ago). So, I will lock onto the dark stuff in sync with my breath (pleasure wave). Stay with the wave and the dark stuff kind of “blooms” and becomes steady. That’s second. Then the periphery of my visual field becomes the focus, automatically, which is 3rd (though I can move focus there intentionally to “hack” into 3rd, but the quality of the jhana is compromised). Then the middle fills in, and that’s 4th. Jhanas 5-8 can be found within the “tail end” of 4th — you can find the “space” between yourself and the dark stuff, kind of like a “hidden layer” which you can “step into” and progress from there up till “Neither perception nor yet non-perception” or whatever it’s called — which is like being totally tuned out. It’s useful for hangovers when the alternative would be feeling miserable. :)

      I was thinking back over this very old post: http://www.personalpowermeditation.com/forum/meditation/meditation-states-more-intense-than-drugs/

      “The first time I reached this “void” state, where I literally had nothing in my mind, it was like trying to maintain a bubble. In the bubble was nothing, and that’s where I wanted to stay. However, thoughts were pushing in from the outside, trying to burst the bubble. The first time I experienced this, I was able to maintain the bubble for several seconds, using the “muscle” of concentration built by all my previous meditation experience. It really is like flexing a muscle. I am amazed by the brain’s ability to develop such things. Anyway, I stayed in the bubble for several seconds, and staying there caused what I can only describe as an EXPLOSION of pleasure in my brain. Honestly, it was more intense than any drug. It was more like an orgasm, but even more intense. It was as though someone had run up and injected me with heroin or something. I could not maintain this intense state. All the thoughts came flooding back into my head, and my ego went giddy with joy at the new “toy” it had found.”

      I am pretty certain that “bang” was Nirodha-Samapatti. There was pseudo-cessation during it. I’ve tried to get it back today but didn’t get there. Beginner’s luck does count for something in meditation.

      A fairly good assumption to make in concentration meditation is that you’re about to achieve something. I’ve always proceeded under the belief that these things are waiting to be found and could happen at any time, and that the mind will just kind of find its way there if you let it. I’ve never had any doubts, because as far as concentration meditation is concerned, doubts are just background noise and wasted cycles you could devote to absorption. My advice to anyone is just to stop having any doubts about your abilities at all because they’re a total waste of your time.

      • Illuminatus says:

        Correction! I just found I could skip straight into 5th jhana (Infinite space). This was after practising concentration meditation for about an hour, so that jhana was already well-practised and “worn in”. Just assume there is a layer of space in your consciousness that you can “step into” — it’s between “you” and your field of vision. Step into it, and it expands.

  11. James says:

    Thank you for the reply.

    I’m confused about where I’m at basically.

    I’ve been trying to be consistantly aware/present . Could I be in a jhana and not left it? I feel kinda like I’m on a cloud. Last night when I was alseep I felt like I went through rapture, waves of pleasure each more intense than the last all coming from my naval – where I’ve always had lots of tension/energy blocks.

    earlier that day, I think I had symptoms of the dark night – some of my intentions started coming through, and I thought about what happens after I get what I asked for? This was followed by panick/fright/worry that even after I got something I wanted, nothing would change and I would not be satisfied, and the mere power to have control over reality was in that fashion was scary and daunting.

    Today, when I breath and go into the subtle breath, I feel vibrations/discomfort. Not pleasure that I can absorb into.

    My body feels very light and any thoughts very faint. Pain/discomfort is labeled as such but there is no suffering, likewise I feel no pleasure really, sort of a disassociated apathy.

    I feel like everything is fluffy.

    • Illuminatus says:

      “I’ve been trying to be consistantly aware/present . Could I be in a jhana and not left it? I feel kinda like I’m on a cloud. Last night when I was alseep I felt like I went through rapture, waves of pleasure each more intense than the last all coming from my naval – where I’ve always had lots of tension/energy blocks.”

      I would say that’s first jhana and you can just cycle the waves (make them the object, or a combination of that and, say, your breath) and let the rapture build up like that. There is an orgasmic element to it. I am sure we are hacking both the dopamine and opioid systems.

      “earlier that day, I think I had symptoms of the dark night – some of my intentions started coming through, and I thought about what happens after I get what I asked for? This was followed by panick/fright/worry that even after I got something I wanted, nothing would change and I would not be satisfied, and the mere power to have control over reality was in that fashion was scary and daunting.”

      I would say these are little fractal reflections of the Dark Night, but full-blown Dark Night is really rather obvious (well, it was for me, once I knew that’s what it was). Mine lasted for 6 years! So my advice would be not to sweat these little instances of negative mind states. Don’t “script” yourself into a Dark Night, haha.

      “Today, when I breath and go into the subtle breath, I feel vibrations/discomfort. Not pleasure that I can absorb into.”

      I would advise you to go back to the pleasurable focus if you want to cultivate deep jhana. So go back to your belly one. Listen up, everyone. You need to pick objects that work FOR YOU. Pick them based on which ones make you feel the best and/or are quickest to get into. E.g. I am very visual — that’s my dominant representational system. So I almost always use the dark stuff behind my eyes (in combination with my breath). I can use, say, an audio tone as an object, but it takes a little longer to “lock onto” and there’s more a “forced” feeling regarding the pleasure. The pleasure wave can be learned as a habit to transplant jhana onto objects not in your preferred representational system. Learning how to get to rapture should therefore be your #1 priority. My message here is that if an object is not working for you, try another one, in a different representational system (feeling? Visual? Audio? What?)

      “My body feels very light and any thoughts very faint. Pain/discomfort is labeled as such but there is no suffering, likewise I feel no pleasure really, sort of a disassociated apathy.

      I feel like everything is fluffy.”

      This is tough to label. I know what you mean because I can settle into that apathetic state if I stay in a “soft” jhana for a long time. I believe it comes from maxing out the opioid system (you get a similar “numb” feeling if you take a load of codeine or tramadol). My advice is to ramp up the rapture. So build those pleasure waves up. I used to “dump” all the pleasure in one go, which would then lead to that numbed, fluffy state you’re describing. Now I let the rapture build up in its own time, in phase with the breath, and in phase with the fascination I am experiencing with the object/state (object and state begin to become one, hence “absorption”).

      Since I began taking this more “organic” approach to jhana, my jhanas are always extremely pleasurable (and addictive). The amount of dopamine I pump into my own brain leaves a metallic taste in my mouth sometimes. My morning wake-up ritual is now to do some tai chi–style exercises to unstiff my muscles from the various sleeping positions (and these moves all come from the right brain; I’m going to film it soon and put it up here, and explain how to access that state). Then I get back in bed in a semi-reclined position (pillows behind my back) and rise through the jhanas. It is nice to know, for a fact, that I am going to feel good immediately that day.

  12. James says:

    Thanks for the indepth reply – I always looked forward to your new content.

    I’ve been through the dark night already, I “boosted” myself through it with DMX and DMT, which was brutal and not recommended.

    I have found doing the posture exercises you’ve recommend so far (tense and release) has really, really been of great help.

    • Illuminatus says:

      “I’ve been through the dark night already, I “boosted” myself through it with DMX and DMT, which was brutal and not recommended.”

      You can’t hack through the Dark Night with drugs. Been there, tried that, got the t-shirt. I even got a fake “Fruition” while on a combination of methoxphenidine and LSA. That cycled me back to Arising & Passing as though it were a real fruition — but the curtain of duality did not stay lifted! I had to go through the entire Dark Night again, without drugs, and get fruitions, without drugs, before I could finally feel like I had achieved what I set out to achieve and got my life back.

      I think it’s actually a pretty good idea to master all the territories of the various emotions you feel from day to day as though they were one of the Stages of Insight, and that’s what my next big post is about. It’s pretty remarkable what you can achieve when, say, you have mastered Fear — because, well, can you think of any life situation where mastery of Fear wouldn’t come in handy?!

      • Illuminatus says:

        And, of course, mastering jhana is always cool if you’ve had enough and want to suppress the shit out of a negative emotional state. :)

        It’s nice to have options. :)

        If everyone could learn to get hard jhana at will the antidepressant companies would go out of business overnight.

  13. Illuminatus says:

    I need to add something to this.

    “My body feels very light and any thoughts very faint. Pain/discomfort is labeled as such but there is no suffering,”

    Why are you labelling anything? Beginning to label sensations means you have departed from concentration into insight meditation. If you made the choice to do that, fine. If you assumed that you were still doing concentration meditation at that point, you’re dead wrong.

    I’ve got the feeling from having done a few Skype sessions and answering plenty of emails/comments that a lot of you have way too much mental (mainly verbal) activity going on while doing concentration. Suppress the hell out of that shit! This isn’t insight, or watching thoughts, or “noting”, or any variant of that. This is pure concentration. Don’t tolerate any mental activity from yourself that is not being pointed at absorption in the object.

    Especially when you are starting out, most of concentration meditation is actually suppression.

    Once you have worn in that pathway, you can start to feel more like you are pointing your concentration at an object and thoughts “fall away”. But if you aren’t there, you aren’t there. Suppress! :)

    “Return your attention ruthlessly to the object” is good advice I gave a student once which really helped him.

  14. James says:

    “This isn’t insight, or watching thoughts, or “noting”, or any variant of that. This is pure concentration. Don’t tolerate any mental activity from yourself that is not being pointed at absorption in the object.”

    Well, that settles it quite nicely 😀

    I think I found my confusion:

    “And, of course, mastering jhana is always cool if you’ve had enough and want to suppress the shit out of a negative emotional state. ”

    I always thought there was no such thing as suppressing, if you did that you would just make it worse and that the only way through negative emotions is acceptance.

    If supression is the key, well I was raised in a religious household, supression is a talent of mine 😀

    .

    • Illuminatus says:

      “I always thought there was no such thing as suppressing, if you did that you would just make it worse and that the only way through negative emotions is acceptance.”

      There is suppression by “pushing emotions down”. In that instance, you are learning a habit — of pushing emotions down. And this is the very definition of being passive/non-assertive. It goes very much with the “head down” posture. In reality a lot of such suppression is actually required due to this whole thing called “having to get along with other people.” 😉 So that’s where social savvy comes in, in being able to express emotions in ways that don’t wreck your relationships. There is definitely a lot of truth that suppressing emotions in that respect will make them worse down the line (luckily, a few assertive expressions of those emotions quickly “corrects the timeline” :) ). One of my major guides, coming up, will focus on how to experience emotions as they arise without “acting out on them”. So, not suppression — you can actually choose to fully feel the emotions then not do anything. They don’t get suppressed, they don’t “build up”. It’s all conscious choice. That requires some leaps of faith and work on becoming detached from the “self” that suffers, and hopefully my guide will bring people to that place quicker than if they just followed, say, current insight meditation technology. What I practise is very similar to Actualism. I consider it a kind of “right-brain enlightenment” technology — working with sensations as opposed to deconstructing them.

      In the context of concentration meditation, there are two ways I have used the word “suppress” in these replies. The first is suppression of thoughts during concentration meditation. This is absolutely the way to go, especially when first starting out. You are “carving out a space” in your consciousness for the object to sit in. I do not push thoughts down for this. I mainly push “on” them, or “through” them. That’s really hard to explain, but just give it a go. The end result is that it feels like I’m “pushing” on the object on the out breath and slightly “pulling” on the object on the in breath. That’s how you sync the “lock” (beginning of absorption with the object) with the breath. I will have to add that to guide; it’s an important point and will probably unlock this for some people who just needed a “key”.

      Again: Try this. Imaging you are “pushing” on the object with your mind during the out breath, and “pulling” on the object on the in breath. You are aiming to get the pushes and pulls flowing smoothly like a sine wave. That is one way you can achieve rhythm in your concentration meditation, and begin to get regular pleasure waves in synchronization with everything else that is going on. That’s how you build up to rapture, and utter fascination with the object. It is literally like you are merging with it. Because you are “feeling” the object (the emotional responses in your body are synchronized with your focus on the object), you begin to literally FEEL the object. This is how one becomes “absorbed” in an object.

      Suppressing thoughts in concentration meditation is fine. If they are that important, you’ll just think them again later while not meditating. 99% of your daily thoughts are completely useless anyway. Aren’t they. Think about that for a moment.

      Furthermore, thoughts are really fickle beasts. For me, and most people I suspect, they are largely at the mercy of the underlying emotional currents. I had far too much to drink last night and the hangover had my thoughts turn, apparently arbitrarily, to self-hating thoughts. I am an extremely happy, positive person in my life now, so when I detect this happening I KNOW this is my body talking. The thoughts in this context are nonsense attachment of false meaning to painful body sensations (Invalid Attribution). It is vital that thoughts are not “thunk” while in this state! That’s one of the problems with depressive people: they THINK while in the depressed state (when they actually should be asleep) and write themselves a new character story/history from that body state and become self-hating due to that new story. Break that feedback loop! Concentration meditation is by far the best way to do this. STOP THINKING! Pick an object and get absorbed. Concentration meditation makes nerves release opioids (it might be a kind of intentional “overloading”). It took about 45 minutes of concentration but I beat the hangover. I just killed off the pain with the meditation then the thoughts fixed themselves. Miracle, eh.

      My second usage of “suppress” pertains to intentionally suppressing negative emotional states using concentration meditation. This is as I just described. I am not suggesting people slack off all their troubles and just stay in jhana all the time and never think about or manage their problems (even though, for most people, that would probably actually HELP them solve their problems since they would be a lot happier in general). I am suggesting however that concentration meditation be used as a magic pill whenever you feel bad seemingly for no reason. Why suffer so much in this life? The really good thing about being able to do this is that, when you do get round to looking at your problems, you will be able to do so from the position of KNOWING you can feel good immediately after dealing with them. The fear of the fear of the fear is what keeps most people behind.

      So, I hope that clears up why to suppress, when to suppress, and how to suppress. :)

  15. Nick says:

    I’m continuing to enjoy the benefits of this practise. My focus is unbelievable. I zip through books much faster and seem to retain more information. I’m also happier for no good reason (does there have to be a reason?) One funny thing that I’ve noticed, I stammer in my speech enough for it to be a social and business problem. I’ve noticed that when my energy and focus is high, I can temporarily overide the tendency to stammer, but when I do this I experience an increase in anxiety and fear. I’ve started to journal this to enhance my awareness of this. I’ve long suspected that symptoms like stammering,social anxiety are like a shield which was erected via the nervous system to protect the individual. Probably dating back to a time when the individual was powerless in early childhood.
    Have you had any experience with the Sedona Method or Release technique (named depending on whose teaching). It makes sense but I found it difficult to make work. The teachings reminded me of self enquiry with a Buddhist slant. I like their take on goal setting. They set goals to bring up negativity and then work on releasing or allowing those feelings.
    I enjoy reading and practising your work and look forward to future writings.

    • Illuminatus says:

      Hi Nick,

      Sedona, “Release”, NLP, EFT — all these lower-level techs are shit. They use jhana elements but in bizarre frameworks with insane rationalizations.

      Just go straight for deeper jhanas. You’re already seeing the benefits.

      The stammer is a muscle contraction habit learned by having your voice “cut off” by others during childhood. You go to talk, someone cuts you off (to tell you off, bully you, or otherwise dominate you) and you get stuck with this habit. It’s muscles, and if there is one thing the human mind can actually control, it is muscles. Pull up an anxious situation in your mind you know causes you to stammer. Find the muscles tense up in various parts of your speaking apparatus, e.g. chest, lungs, throat, etc. Make those tensed muscles the object. Do jhana on them until you relax. It might take you 2 hours, or 20 seconds. I’ve used this to recondition a million muscle tension related issues. Sorry, I can’t tell you it any more clearly than that. Just play around.

      Edd

  16. Nick says:

    Thanks for the advice. In a crazy way I’m glad I have this current problem. It’s pushed me into this fascinating area of study. I’ll take on board your suggestions. The warning about the low level techs is appreciated. I’ll be making a contribution, I’ve learnt a lot from you.

  17. James says:

    I found I get to deeper states quicker laying down.

    Also, I had like… Arm rapture the other day? I WAS my right arm, and it thrashes about for a few seconds englufed in white light. Then I felt like I kinda, like fell asleep/blinked out for a second and was just laying down again awake.

  18. Lucifer says:

    I’m using my throat as the “object” when talking to other people to see if I can improve my tone of voice. Well, the results are pretty amazing. My voice is louder and deeper now. I didn’t know I had such a manly and sexy voice. It’s still not perfect, but II’m working on it. Being shy, I always struggled to make people hear what I was saying most times. I thought I couldn’t change my voice but now I understand that it was the result of previous conditioning and muscle tension which had been accumulated during years.

  19. Gary says:

    How has achieving Jhanas affected your ability to attract women?

    • Illuminatus says:

      At the start it was excellent. I would sit for 15-30 minutes in jhana, then go out and forget all about it. Due to the neurochemicals released (e.g. opioids, GABA, dopamine) it was a great mood and was the first time I felt present on nights out without drugs. I would not think about state or meditation or anything on those nights. I think that’s the best way to do it.

      I think doing jhana actually during nights out can be useful, but only in rare ultra-quick bursts to wipe away some anxiety or get out of your verbal mind for a moment or to do Sleazy-style “mind clearance”. As I got better at jhana, I started letting the line get really blurred, and ended up doing jhana all the time which made me very passive and zombie-like. Jhana is very comfortable, and comfort tends towards inaction.

      So this is all about knowing where to draw lines, and to stick to that. Personally I would recommend guys to steer away from jhana during socializing. Do a good sit before leaving the house, then completely forget about it.

      If you are looking for a relationship of the form “Learn jhana –> get girls” then I would say abandon that thought immediately. You still have to do everything you would have had to do anyway to meet women. A 15-30–minute sit beforehand however might just make you more open and sociable and improve your odds.

      • Gary says:

        Thank you.
        I am basically interested in using meditation to develop ‘Emotional Stability’ as you called it in one of your posts on the older forum. The ability to be completely present and unfazed while I am out interacting with women similar to what Sleazy does. I find myself in my head a lot and I am trying to get out of that.

  20. John says:

    Iv hit intense levels of bliss before when approaching jhana, There were times when it was so intense i would burst into laughter and i would be up all night because of the amount of energy i had felt, i also noticed a large increase in cognition afterwards. I find it quite hard to get there these days, I believe my lack of sleep makes it harder for me to hit Jhana. But anyway, Im just wondering, how much effort do i put into concentrating on the breath? Do i put alot of effort into concentrating on the breath trying to hold it there? or do i simply just relax and put very light gentle focus on the breath?

    • Illuminatus says:

      Hi John,

      It’s tough to answer because I now consider the breath to be a kind of crutch. That’s because I recently figured out that jhana is just a constant activation of certain nerves. I can turn on and “cycle” current through those nerves now without using an object.

      Using the breath gets you there with enough practice because the breath turns on all nerves throughout the body in sequence as it moves through the cycle of in-out; during that cycle you will spot which parts of the breath make you feel good — the pleasure aspect of jhana — and be able to isolate your awareness to just that part of the sequence. It has never been described like that before, probably because they didn’t know about nerves etc. when the language was made.

      Anyway, I can now just choose nerves and cycle current through them perpetually. I’m currently trying to map which nerves do what. There is one in the abdomen area which gives equanimity; the ones either side of the eyes which cause the face to smile create rapture. The ones in the bridge of the nose seem to create pleasure, and link into the chest — probably the vagus nerve. So, a few sets of nerves create all the glory of jhana.

      The breath is the most-used object because it turns on all nerves at some point in its sequence. So I recommend you do breathing but notice at which points in the breath a sense of pleasure or something else desirable is experienced, then try and create a breathing cycle which turns on those nerves the most. With practice you can get those certain nerves to have current passing through them constantly — and at that point you tend to “breathe around” those nerves (so you use other nerves to control the in-out, while keeping on those desired nerves which are, in my experience, mostly “in” nerves). At this point the breathing tends to be shallow because the nerves used for a regular breath are being co-opted for pleasure etc.

      I think you were doing this when you experienced the sudden bursting into laughter. I have certainly had “too much pleasure to take”. In my experience this is because the body needs to open up but is blocked. In real terms this is due to FASCIA (connective tissue) which has organized the body into a contracted pose due to people sitting all day. You can get up, breathe deeply and pull your head up and back gently and feel things move around to accommodate the expansion. (This is also one of the main purposes of yoga, which you might also want to look into.) When the body is opened up in this fashion you can accommodate more “energy” in the jhana without losing composure and then you can let yourself go into the trippier LSD-style aspects of jhana, e.g. infinite consciousness and the other formless realms which are spectacular.

      • Illuminatus says:

        P.S. When a nerve has a constant current flowing through it, there is a definite sense of “flow” in the whole conscious experience — hence why this flow aspect is emphasized in texts about jhana. For me this nerve input creates visual effects too, e.g. jewel tones, lights etc.

        • John says:

          Thanks for that :)! But i have 1 more question, Do you believe that diet and proper sleep is really important? I find that when i meditate and been eating constant junk food and having an unbalanced sleep routine i can never go deep into concentration, It feels like i barely make any progress at all.

          But when i start eating healthy and sleeping well I feel progress going up and up. Compared to when my diet and sleep was off and I would never get anywhere.

          • James says:

            John, for you – do you believe diet and proper sleep is important?

            • John says:

              Well im not sure now, When i actually think about it, diet and sleep is good for concentration but is it actually essential. For me meditation was so simple and just required consistency, i would sit down, focus on my breath and keep returning and then I would hit access concentration within a day or 2 practicing 20 minutes.
              Now for some reason I can’t, No matter how much i try, practicing for long lengths everyday for a whole week now and it looks like not much progress is going on.

              When i did meditate it wouldn’t be long to reach access, Even if i were to stop practicing for along time and get rusty and start all over again it would take only a day or so. But this is just ridiculous, Hours put forth and It looks like i can’t go deep at all. It would never take this long, Still trying to figure out what it could be that is stopping me from hitting access.

  21. James says:

    Are you absolutely still while meditating?

  22. PsySeducer says:

    I read both Absolutus amas and except keeping consistency with concentration practice there’s nothing to learn from him.
    I actually think he went thru a prolongued golden fluke period of meditative states and now he feels loosing it and just needs to brag a little on reddit to keep it going.
    The only thing I like is he tried to cultivate that “mdma state” as the guy from Limitless wich I am going for too in my daily practice, but that’s got more to do with a mindfull/full presence state than concentration meditation.

    • James says:

      That seems a bit dismissive.

      I think you do know a lot though and would be interested in what you have to share – if you ever feel like making a good write up on some of your knowledge, I’d be happy to help you clarify them (since English is my native language).

  23. Dynisty44 says:

    why some days it can be alot harder to concentrate? I don’t find my meditation progress being very stable

    • Vick says:

      It’s the same for me, for a few days it looks like you’re stuck or even regressing but eventually you break through.
      Diet, sleep and even what happens daily all affects meditation (for me at least).
      I think that’s just the nature of things, only thing to do is to keep going, just make sure you’re practicing correctly.

    • PsySeducer says:

      Because first you have to quiet the mind and bring all awearness to the present moment. So it depends on what state your brain is when starting to meditate. It shouldn’ t be stable it should be better quality each time, if not you’re not doing it right.

  24. Dynisty44 says:

    When i focus on my breath, should i try to be aware of any incoming thoughts so i can catch them the moment they arise and return to the breath? or should i just focus on the breath and let the thoughts arise and then just wait until i realize then bring it back?

    • Illuminatus says:

      Mercilessly bring your attention back to the breath. Pull your attention away from any thoughts, back to the breath, immediately. You do not engage thoughts at all in concentration meditation.

      • John says:

        Hey Illuminatus did you ever find that you had to switch technique around alot? because i would find at times that sometimes my method would work and other days it wouldn’t so i had to keep changing my method around in order to concentrate. I remember Absolutus saying that he had to do this to, just wondering if you did.

      • Dynisty44 says:

        “Mercilessly bring your attention back to the breath. Pull your attention away from any thoughts, back to the breath, immediately. You do not engage thoughts at all in concentration meditation.”

        Iv been trying this but it strains my head just trying to be so aware of the moment my mind wanders, It feels quite hard trying to be aware of thoughts the instant I think while also maintaining focus on my breath. I guess its just always been difficult to do 2 things at once mentally. :/

        • Illuminatus says:

          “Iv been trying this but it strains my head just trying to be so aware of the moment my mind wanders”

          Who the FUCK said “be aware of the moment”?

          Do not be aware of the “moment”, be aware of the breath.

          “It feels quite hard trying to be aware of thoughts”

          Who the FUCK said “be aware of thoughts”? Be aware only of the breath!!

          “I guess its just always been difficult to do 2 things at once mentally.”

          Who the FUCK said “do 2 things at once mentally”?

          Do ONE thing at once mentally: be aware of the breath.

          This post was aimed at people like you: http://www.personalpowermeditation.com/illuminatus-and-the-laser-pointer/

          You don’t read properly, and you barely practise. You read a paragraph then superimpose your own ideas of what the meditation is supposed to be instead of actually reading the words. When you are doing things I never said to do (probably because they are bits and pieces of other meditations you read on the web), what am I supposed to do? If I say, “”Do X” then someone says “I did Y, why didn’t it work?” what am I supposed to do?

          If you can’t fucking read, what am I supposed to do?

          • Dynisty44 says:

            … you said “Do not engage thoughts” and for me to do this i need to be aware of incoming thoughts so i can return to the breath as quick as possible, if Im not aware of any incoming thoughts my mind will wander and when it wanders I forget to return to the breath because my mind is to “zoned” into wandering off. I read very closely, Actually it can be to the point where i overthink things extremely. If i just focus on the breath and my mind wanders off I can slip off into a wandering state for 5 – 10 minutes without realizing it because i wasn’t trying to be aware of those incoming thoughts fast enough to stop them before i go into a “Daydream”..

            Just as you said, Don’t engage any thoughts so ofc I feel the need to beaware of upcoming thoughts so i can “return to the breath” the moment one arises as fast as i can or else i’ll be daydreaming.

            But do not be mad at me for such, This is partly a reason why im here for concentration meditation as it improves cognitive ability over time .-.- because i have mental issues which makes it harder for me to process things.

          • Dynisty44 says:

            Sorry…. ;(..

            • Illuminatus says:

              No. You JUST return to the breath.

              Your only mental issue is that you do what you want instead of following the instruction.

              • Dynisty44 says:

                Without debating here no, iv been doing this for over 1 year now, Exactly that “Focusing on the breath then return” and i make good progress, 3 – 4 days later my concentration goes back to being shit again and i find that no matter how much i practice my concentration just does not improve, its as if my method just stops working and this will happen for a week before my concentration will start to improve again. Its not “some days its good and some days its bad” its literially “Some days It goes back to 0.” as if i have to start all over again, weeks worth of practice just goes. And its been happening for a whole year.. Iv hit jhana before, practiced alot trying to reenter it, But i wonder if its more than just “practice” since i practice very consistently to only make progress then for it to drop days later.
                So something is undoing my progress.

                Also, Very rarely have i ever gone by “My own way”.. Im not trying to piss you off, But im very pissed off my self that im working so hard at this daily and its just constant fucking failure.

                • Illuminatus says:

                  Okay. You have either hit jhana by some fluke on those occasions (which is possible; I did it a few times early on in my practice) OR you have not hit jhana on those occasions.

                  Either way you are not doing a consistent method for jhana. It is not consistently producing the same result, which is what you need. It means your method isn’t right.

                  I have started writing a new guide, Version 2.0 of this post, which will have specific instructions and will not leave anything open for interpretation. So look out for that. Join the “NEVER MISS AN ARTICLE” mailing list at the top-right of this screen if you want the alert. It will be done hopefully within the week.

                • PsySeducer says:

                  You just want to get that bliss dontcha, that rapture ? Why not pick and use the consistent thought-objects of your mind wandering instead of the boring breath?
                  I get jhana every time my mind wonders on a beautifull girl and a strong erection too…it’s almost efortless. Just think about that.

                  • Illuminatus says:

                    ^^^ Statements like that being the very reason I highly doubt you’ve ever had jhana, PsySeducer.

                    This advice is not only non-constructive but harmful as it encourages reinforcement of existing thought patterns.

                    • PsySeducer says:

                      Even your secret idol Absolutus describes jhana as singlepointendess absorbtion +stilness of mind so it’s kinda your fault 99% of people here dont get it intelectually.Youll be amazed how many guys agree with everything you say but in private they actually admit having no skill or basic understanding over it except theres this bliss that never can get a grasp on after months and years of reinforcing same bad techs.
                      if it takes you weeks and get no succes or massive improvements youre doing it wrong…also another quote from all mighty Absolutus.
                      I get jhana not only using thought patterns, but even using the thought stream itself as object.Problem is not the internal dialogue, problem is people dont get the full dedication- investment of attention part, wich if executed right thoughts become at most the bitch of your will.
                      How is using a handy object that comes naturaly as a priority of attention like mind wandering worse than using another mental concept like the breath wich btw is the basic mindfulness/insight trigger the exact oposite of concentrantion states …talking about jhana counterproductive approaches lol.

                    • Dynisty44 says:

                      Hmm, The bliss is really not the thing I am after lel.

                      As for the method, Yeah I will admit i was changing my method around alot if it worked 1 day then didn’t work the next, I would have stuck with the method but i suppose it was always confusion. I have read Absolutus’s posts in the past and I recall he had said “You should always be constantly refining your method” but a few days ago He said if your diet / overall sleep, ect, is good then your method should not have to change as much.

                      But I’ll see what happens, Im going to stick with 1 method for now and not change it to see How I go.

                    • Dynisty44 says:

                      And one last thing. I do believe this was jhana of what i experienced a few times. It was such an intense overwhelming pleasurable bliss with intense energy. I could not sit still at all because of it and that very same night I never got to sleep because of the amount of energy I felt. My mind was so clear to and my ability to process things felt so fast to.

  25. James says:

    whatever your object of concentration is, when you wayver from said object, you just bring your awareness back to it.

    Here is the newest concentration guide:

    http://www.personalpowermeditation.com/official-concentration-meditation/

  26. Illuminatus says:

    @PsySeducer

    “Even your secret idol Absolutus”

    He is not my idol. He wrote some inspiring words on the jhanas and I respect what he has achieved. It’s more than you have done.

    “+stilness of mind so it’s kinda your fault 99% of people here dont get it intelectually.Youll be amazed how many guys agree with everything you say but in private they actually admit having no skill or basic understanding over it except theres this bliss that never can get a grasp on after months and years of reinforcing same bad techs.”

    I would not be surprised. Formulating guides for this sort of tech, in language everyone can understand and implement, is incredibly difficult.

    But if they are bad techs, WHY ARE YOU HERE?

    If you have something better to say, I suggest you start your own blog and put yourself on the line. It is easy to be a back-seat driver.

    Re talking behind backs, I don’t know if you would be surprised, but you are not well respected here and I get emails about you regularly. The gist is that people are wondering why it took so long to tell you to piss off. I had been replying, until recently, that if someone steps forward and has something to say on this site that I tend to give them a chance. Giving you a chance however turned out to be a mistake and we are now coming to the end of that.

    “I get jhana not only using thought patterns, but even using the thought stream itself as object.”

    It’s possible, and I’ve done it. But it is advanced, and is certainly nothing you should be advising to a beginner.

    In fact, it is advanced enough that you have no reason to be here if you can do it, which brings me again to the question of why you are here.

    “Problem is not the internal dialogue”

    With full absorption there should be no internal dialogue.

    To a beginner, overactive, uncontrolled internal dialogue is in fact the main reason they are here. That is why we give them an object such as the breath — to get their mind onto something BESIDES internal dialogue.

    So you are talking out of your arse, once again.

    “How is using a handy object that comes naturaly as a priority of attention like mind wandering worse”

    Because, again, mind-wandering is one of the major problems beginners face.

    “than using another mental concept like the breath wich btw is the basic mindfulness/insight trigger the exact oposite of concentrantion states …talking about jhana counterproductive approaches lol.”

    The breath is an extremely useful and powerful object for concentration states because it can be made to flow and therefore form a stable, consistent mental object. The breath is also stabilizing for the body, as both body and mind tend to organize themselves around the breath, and therefore a stable breath will bring stability in the whole psyche.

    The breath can also be dissected during insight, but to say it is an insight trigger counterproductive to concentration is absolutely wrong and suggests to me you do not actually know how to turn the breath into a flowing, stable object. Again, I also do not think you actually are getting hard jhana states; I don’t think you have had that state, else much of these conversations we seem to be having would not be occurring. I do not know what you have been doing but it does not sound like jhana.

    For other readers: The new version of the guide will spell out in detail what jhana is and how to identify it, so this argument should disappear (unless someone does not like my definition of jhana, which will almost certainly happen, and in which case they can go and read another author).

    Finally, I will bring this down to the simple. Advising a beginner, in concentration meditation, to get his attention off the breath and instead place it on his wandering thoughts and images of beautiful women so he gets a hardon is, simply put, the worst single piece of advice I have ever, EVER, heard in meditation circles, and, for me, has completely destroyed your credibility.

    Now, whenever you give advice or criticize mine, in my mind you will forever be the guy who advised the beginner to think about beautiful women and wandering thoughts and get a hardon. It is simply ludicrous.

    We are done here.

  27. PsySeducer says:

    You call it inspiring I’ve called it marketing with no value added. As for those who dont like me I really dont care,got nothing to sell here. Except one guy on the forum with some experience most of them are 20 some old virgos with massive anxiety towards girls (main reason theyre here), very superficial with meditation and almost no clue about jhanas but verry skeptical and moralist.Goodluck with that, your funny adventures should keep em coming, otherwise your lonley as a skizo.
    From mindfulnes (sati) you can choose to concentrate for jhanas,but actually it’s basis for all meditation forms that use awearness as a navigation tool. So its actually easyier to get jhana after few seconds of mindfull breathing but you always hesitate to mention this in guides because it doesnt fit in your allbody shtick.
    All qualities mentioned in your case for breath as the object are actually insight ques haha. Sati works by including new objects in area of attention near breath.
    Full absorbtion happens waaay further than 4th jhana stage, wich youve recently found to be cooler than bliss.
    Im here because you remind me of me 15 years ago when i started using meditative states without knowing its called that, but getting much deeper in 1st month than you are now.
    You overestimate the meditation circles credibility against the power of a hardon. Guess how much this affects my morning vipassana.

  28. Aldous says:

    I am a 20 year old Virgo with massive anxiety towards girls.
    That is the main reason I’m here.
    And I still think ‘Psyseducer’ is an arrogant prick.

  29. Pat says:

    “You overestimate the meditation circles credibility against the power of a hardon.”
    I could get a boner long before I came to PPM.
    “As for those who dont like me I really dont care,got nothing to sell here.”
    THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE?

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